• macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    It is freedom. Freedom to go where you went, when you want. Freedom to explore, freedom to experience things you couldn’t otherwise.

    I buy all of my cars outright, but have never been forced. Owning cars, driving cars, working on cars, and selling cars are all joys to be had.

    If you don’t like driving, then don’t. Take a bus, a train, or bike. But just because you cannot afford it, or because driving is scary for you, don’t presume that the majority is going to agree.

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      5 hours ago

      Have you tried taking public transport yourself to commute to work? In most cities in the US, it’s unreliable, inefficient, or straight up not even there. For many commuters, driving is the only option.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s freedom to go where you want so long as you

      • register with the government
      • insure it
      • get a license
      • maintain it (likely by paying someone else to do it, since it’s a complicated skill set )
        • figure out fuel and oil sources
      • probably other stuff I’m forgetting

      persoally, I think being able to walk or bike somewhere is more free. Public transit that’s just always there, running every couple minutes, is also good.

      As to “take a bus”, part of the problem, and part of why communities like “fuck cars” gain traction, is that most places are car-first, and thus taking a bus isn’t a viable option. These modes of transit aren’t equal. Where my parents live in the suburbs it would be a long dangerous walk to a bus stop, and then the buses don’t run often, or go many places.

      People aren’t mad at cars out of spite. They’re mad because car-first culture is bad ecologically, socially, and economically.

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      21 hours ago

      If you don’t like driving, then don’t. Take a bus, a train, or bike

      That’s exactly the problem: I can’t, my city has shitty bus routes with 1 hour frequency, trains are non existent, bike infrastructure only on dreams. That’s the freedom we want, but with car centric infrastructure, we don’t have the freedom to choose how to move and function on this society

      • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org
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        20 hours ago

        I’m lucky to live walking distance to work. 99.995% of my city doesn’t have that option and must rely on a car. My city spends almost nothing in public transit but spends a lot on roads and other car subsidies.

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      16 hours ago

      I’d love to walk, bike, or take the bus, but there are no busses where I live, sparse sidewalks, and no bike lanes. You do the math.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      I buy all of my cars outright, but have never been forced. Owning cars, driving cars, working on cars, and selling cars are all joys to be had.

      You’re a person after my own heart. Cars deserve better than to be used for commuting.

      The more people we can get to not use cars for things the better cars will be. They wouldn’t design ugly drab eggs in three colors if cars weren’t treated like appliances.

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        16 hours ago

        I think the opposite is true. If cars weren’t treated like they are a necessary part of the personality and instead just like a thing, the owners may stop valueing them less than other people’s lives. Like ‘I am in a hurry, I will just overtake that cyclist in front of me with an inch if distance, because I am so much more important.’

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          6 hours ago

          Plenty of people who don’t actually like cars do that not because the car is part of their personality but because they see the cyclist as “in their way.”

          If someone truly loved their car they wouldn’t want a cyclist putting scratches all over it.