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      Of course not, it was the entire idea.

      This message is so obviously sucking his asshole, they couldn’t be more obvious yet Trump obviously has no idea

      The cheeto really has a long list of mental issues, doesn’t he?

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    Translation: “Thanks to your stupid politics, you managed to pull EU closer and finally decide on things for Greater good.”

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      If Trump took the US out of NATO, he would genuinely be remembered as the harm reduction candidate for the Global South. Sadly, Trump would never actually be anti-NATO, US Imperialism depends too greatly on it.

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        Yes, we know, you are preaching to the choir here, lemmy.ml.

        But I’d rather we not back out of NATO, decouple trade and invade friendly neighbors all while the US continues to screw over far away countries first. At this point, backing out of NATO is not going to help our bad behavior.

        After that, we can worry about not screwing with other countries so much, hopefully.

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          So you’d rather we remain in NATO, terrorizing the global south, fully emboldened and screwing over the world? A US without NATO is one without the main imperialist army at its beck and call.

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        f Trump took the US out of NATO, he would genuinely be remembered as the harm reduction candidate for the Global South.

        Lol no he wouldn’t.

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          He absolutely would, NATO is seen very negatively in the global south due to its constant aggression and its role in maintaining western imperialism. Just look at what happened to Libya, Yugoslavia, and even covert ops like Operation GLADIO.

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              NATO didn’t stop a genocide; it aided one[1][2][3].

              During the latter half of [the 1990s], Yugoslav authorities engaged in a brutal counterinsurgency against the Kosovo Liberation Army. An Al Qaeda-connected extremist group armed, funded and trained by the CIA and MI6, the KLA sought to construct an ethnically pure “Greater Albania” - a Nazi-inspired irredentist project, uniting Tirana with territory in Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro and Serbia - via insurrectionary violence. Come September 1998, hostilities had erupted into all-out war. A UN Security Council Resolution that month demanded the two sides implement a ceasefire.

              Yugoslav military forces were duly withdrawn from the province - in turn, the KLA exploited the army’s absence to intensify its bloody rampage, seizing further territory and purging non-Albanian inhabitants. A dedicated OSCE unit, the Kosovo Verification Mission, was also created to ensure Belgrade’s ceasefire compliance. KVM was granted full, unimpeded movement anywhere they wished locally. Their presence proved pivotal not only to the KLA’s savage crusade, but NATO’s subsequent criminal bombing of Yugoslavia March - June 1999.

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                Sorry buddy, I read about your writers before the articles. Surely a group of people paid by Russia to advance Russian geopolitical aims would be unbiased. Russia Today *RT, (sorry, some capital leaked in) writers would surely be unbiased and not writing puff pieces for their objectively imperialist funders, right? Right???

                It’s my belief that a nation that fell apart and had the majority of their conquests leave doesnt have a right to reclaim them. Ukraine is a sovereign nation, and so is Bosnia and Croatia and… I invite you to seeth at nations now free.

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                  I guess Noam Chomsky and Michael Parenti are paid shills, too?

                  Ukraine is a sovereign nation

                  Ukraine may be sovereign on paper, but it’s a vassal of the US, which couped its government in 2014 (and 2004). Previously. Previously.

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              There was immense nationalism and ethnic violence on all sides, which NATO used as justification to bomb thousands of civilians to death along with key infrastructure in order to prop up a western-friendly regime. NATO intervention didn’t help the awful situation, it only steered the outcome into the favor of the west at the expense of war crimes.

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                Yeah they should have been left to genocide their neighbors, how dare NATO step in. Fuckin’ imperialists imposing their “morals”.

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                  The Albanians were also committing extreme ethnic violence against the Serbs. When NATO bombed Yugoslavia, it killed over 300 Albanian civilians and over 1700 Serbian civilians, destroyed 164 state-owned factories, and bypassed UN approval against NATO’s own charter. Not a single private, pro-western factory was bombed.

                  The real reason NATO bombed Yugoslavia was because Yugoslavia refused to become a colony. Yugoslavia had agreed to give up Kosovo, but wanted the FRY to retain political and economic soveriegnty, and prevent NATO occupation. NATO countered by wanting full access to the FRY’s communication, infrastructure, and territory. Yugoslavia refused, and then NATO bombed them.

                  NATO involvement was about economics, not a humanitarian concern. NATO wanted open and full access to as many markets as possible, even if it meant bombing those who go against them in any real way. Just like what’s going on with Israel and the US bombing Iran, and NATO countries like the UK and France assisting Israel in air defense.

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      I’ve had him as prime minister of my country for many years, so this is no surprise.

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      “What can we do to make it look like Israel is not committing war-crimes?” - Mark Rutte right before he got promoted to NATO chief.

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    Emperor rutte has spoken. Well deputy emperor to trump, rutte, has spoken. NATO members all agree to destroy their societies in order to boost military spending by 150%. Traitors in member parliaments will need to be executed if they object to the empire.

    At least Europes war on Russia will be worth it. Every 100 years, no one left alive to remember last failure.

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    Oh my God I can just text the president while pretending to be anyone and shape world politics

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    My sense at this point is that grotesque flattery works on Trump, but only to a point. Trump doesn’t really like anyone, the best you can do is a slightly-better-than-neutral relationship. (And at the other end he’s willing to coexist with anyone who hasn’t personally slighted him, like Kim Jong Un)