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octopus_ink@slrpnk.net to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 7 days ago

Does it count twice if I raise them both?

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  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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    Raise your hand if you’re tired of Americans playing the victims while doing nothing

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      Raised, but I feel like one of them. There’s so little I feel like I can do. I was going to go to a protest but wound up taking a group of scouts to the Indian Museum. Felt like a much better, and more impactful use of my time, and it was magical watching those kids hang on the words of our tour guide, as she told us the story of how they won their land rights.

      But that’s the long game, and I am terrified that the short term battles are not being fought.

      So many of my friends have just given up, waiting for the next election to fix it. I don’t have any faith that will work though.

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    I’m not even American and… Yes

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    I’m tired of the future being destroyed by capitalists/christian nationalists. That’s been happening for hundreds and thousands of years, every time they gain power, no matter where or when. Republicans are relatively new to this game.

    I’m also tired of society having to relearn this lesson at great loss of life and suffering, over and over.

    We’re smarter than this, and we far outnumber them.

  • pawnfuture@lemmy.world
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    This is a long standing plan mainly by the Heritage Foundation and the GOP. Musk hacked vote tabulations to deliver them a victory and they’re quickly dismantling America. They stand to inherit lifelong positions in the government without actual elections similar to Russia. There are less than a few thousand people responsible for all of this. Societies degrade rapidly under these scenarios. Remember them when if that happens.

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      Musk hacked vote tabulations

      No he didn’t. Unfortunately, americans are just that stupid. Thats the same rhetoric conservatives were trying to use when they lied about dominion.

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        Ramapo 35 had democratic senator winning 80% of the vote and Harris received 0 votes. There is a lawsuit currently about this.

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    As an outsider you’re both just as bad as each other, Republicans and Democrats

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      They’re both horrible but one is less horrible than the other. When you only have two choices you choose the less horrible option because not choosing is choosing the worse option.

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      Fuck em both. It’s all a culture of sin. It’s the american culture just as much as the political system, if not more.

      America chose to grow the dark side of human the element and expects to get its dick sucked and not shot in the face.

      50/50 theory, 50% of every culture is “good” and 50% is “evil”. Regardless of left or right. It’s basically built into biology.

    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      It pains me that my fellow Americans cannot see this.

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    Actually, why don’t you go vote instead?

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    Now put your hand down if you’ve been doing nothing about it since 2016

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      Shits been fucked beyond repair before that…

      Remember America is a young nation. Theres groups and organizations, not even nations or governments, that are older than America. America could literally be a side project for those groups. For all we know America is ultimately a project of the Vatican or the free masons. They have 600 years on us. They are older than our nation. Forget being a project of God… America is project made by dumbass human beings. We aren’t godly we are built in the image of idiots basically literally.

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    Im tired of the purely performative nonsense in modern democratic party as well. For the resources and votes that go their way they always find a way to deliver nothing, or actively betray us all. Supporting far rightwing genocide, pissing on progressives and progressive causes, and utterly ignoring the working class in the last election are prime examples of this.

    Time to toss the traitors out the door and clean this party out.

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    I’m tired of this country sucking all the fucking life out of me.

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    My grandpa killed Nazis so his son could become a Nazi

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      Title to a future song of a generation, right here.

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    Not just Republicans, conservatives in general. All Republicans are conservative, but many Democrats are as well. That needs to change.

    Mamdani shows it’s possible to start the purge of the DNC. We need to continue that. Primary every last conservative. Drive them from the DNC, drive them from politics, drive them from political discourse and public life. Authoritarianism must be crushed, Constitutional rights must be restored, and common sense policies for real people must be enacted. If we can’t achieve that, then all is lost and totalitarian neofeudalism will prevail.

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      A part of purging the dem party means not voting for conservatives if they win the primary. There is a reason the conservatives win primaries despite having less popular policies than the progressives. A conservative dem losing a general purges the party of one more conservative who got us here.

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      Mamdani shows it’s possible to start the purge of the DNC.

      Just worth saying again for the tankies that are very passionate, but seemingly not enough to vote or organize material change. As disappointing as the dems maybe they are still the home of the little progressive wing we have, and we should work into growing it.

    • octopus_ink@slrpnk.netOP
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      Not just Republicans, conservatives in general.

      You are correct! I tend to use the two interchangeably when I know that conservatives pushes out to a wider audience.

      And frankly, anyone who acts like this was just another election where one side lost is only slightly higher on the totem pole than conservatives are.

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    I’m tired of both Democrats and Republicans destroying the future, and people pretending Democrats don’t because they do it slightly less

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      Inb4 somebody starts saying you are just demoralizing people by saying “both sides are bad”

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    I’m tired of rich and/or petty people controlling us. We’re better than this.

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      We used to be. Currently we are not better than this.

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        No, we really weren’t. America has always been a pretty shit country to anyone who wasn’t owning class. Any good that came about during the course of this country’s existence was in spite of it not because of it.

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          There was a brief time under FDR where we were doing ok. Not much of a legacy to be proud of in light of all the years we got it wrong, but it at least shows we are capable of better.

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            FDR was simply concessions by the state to placate the working people from gaining class consciousness after a long period of working class uprisings. After that brief time was the rise of McCarthyism and the 2nd Red Scare to ensure that the American working class forever opposes left-wing, working class economics, setting the stage for their systemic dismantling of the few concessions we were granted by FDR.

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      Left or right we’re getting fucked one way or the other. The whole foundation’s been corrupted to the core.

      It’s like every debate, any talk of politics is pointless and anything truly reasonable is quickly surpassed overpassed by political “sports team” entertainment while people with real [heartless] willpower continue to do what they do. And I mean that from the streets to the president. The corruption is the same essence and the same evil at any wealth status, education, or social position and all of it is the rotted part of the foundation the country is built upon.

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        Truth mate. This country and the entirety of its government is structurally designed to consolidate wealth into the hands of the owning class. It has been such for so long it is baked into our very culture of American society.

        We need revolt and a new system of not only economics but of government that horizontally distributes authority throughout the community instead of concentrating it into a hierarchical structure that can be turned against us if the wrong person lands a seat of power.

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          Exactly. I worked in marketing… They can use everything. You hate America? They can profit off that. You love America? …they can profit of that. All the while partially guiding you to a preset life-path that they manipulate to profit off you even more. I honestly think genuine honest humanity is extinct. We are a culturally mutilated species at this point even physically in some cases. This isn’t living, they created a culture that is proud to be products, basically bought, sold, or traded for profit.

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        When your “left” is just Diet-Republicans that are less hateful on social issues? Your perspective makes total sense.

        And to be fair? That is what the Democrats have served you. And I hate them harder then Republicans hate them. For this reason.

        I would like to invite you to a Solution-Oriented American Left in Zohran Memdani, Eugene Debbs, or Bernie Sanders.

        This is not the End of what the Left is. This is only where it Starts. we have entire books about the rich American history the Democrats-since-Clinton have entirely abandoned.

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        Nothing makes the Right happier than when someone on the Left says that there’s no hope.

        Look at NYC. The Dem candidate for Mayor is being threatened with deportation and arrest for being a Communist.

        The fight isn’t over until we give up.

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          No hope for the current system doesn’t mean no hope at all.

          It means we need to change the system.

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        You don’t really have a left, not at the moment. It’s getting better but oh my god the disasters it took for your shithole country to start to rally…

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          It is wierd isn’t it. Like having grown up in the middle class I can see why so many ran to the Republicans. It’s a short sighted nostalgia party that preys on people who don’t pay attention or whov been indoctrinated to only watch right wing media.

          But the hubris of the Democrats and even just some left leaning voters is kinda wild.

          But the real problem is the lack of attention local elections get from average folks. Iv been guilty of this as well, and it buggers me good that I never really learned of their importance till I was already like 34

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        That seems like a completely nihilistic and empty view of politics. What do you even actually think a society that isn’t “corrupt” (or at least is less corrupt) could look like? How can you blame the people with no power at all just as much as the president?

        Blaming everyone for everything is basically the same as blaming nobody for anything.

        It’s fine to think that the vast majority of people believe in propaganda or are worried about things that don’t matter.

        My main problem really is with you saying “any talk of politics is pointless”. It’s just complete doomerism.

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          Two groups that love to say “Both sides are the same.”

          People on the Left who have given up hope.

          People on the Right when they get caught being evil.

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            whereas centrists talk about doing good and then line up behind evil, then fingerwag like everyone else got it wrong.

            The current state of the US is because of centrist leadership, so well done buddy.

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              How can you possibly conflate the people in the white house with centrists?

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                same zionism/genocide policy. same immigration policy. Same militarism and attacks across the middle east. Same new prohibitions on free speech. And now the dems seem to vote with the republicans all the time.

                Google “Democrats join republicans” and you see pages of it.

                128 Dems shot down the trump impeachment push recently. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-aoc-al-green-democrats-vote-b2776294.html

                16 Senate Dems Join GOP to Advance Crypto Bill—A Gift to Trump’s ‘Reeking Corruption’ https://www.commondreams.org/news/senate-democrats-genius-bill-advance

                A Tale of Two Resolutions: 75 Dems Join GOP in Resolution Praising Trump’s Mass Deportation Regime https://jonathancohn.medium.com/a-tale-of-two-resolutions-75-dems-join-gop-in-resolution-praising-trumps-mass-deportation-regime-15cf590770ea

                Democrats join Republicans in sanctuary city crackdown https://www.usconstitution.net/why-some-democrats-joined-republicans-in-a-sanctuary-city-crackdown/

                Dems join Republicans to boost defense spending in Trump agenda bill https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/29/congress/dems-join-gop-to-boost-defense-spending-00317618

                Texas Democrats join Republicans to place citizen voting requirement on statewide ballots in 2025 after blocking the amendment in 2023 https://news.ballotpedia.org/2025/05/16/texas-democrats-join-republicans-to-place-citizen-voting-requirement-on-statewide-ballots-in-2025-after-blocking-the-amendment-in-2023/

                7 Democrats vote for GOP resolution condemning LA protests https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5373771-la-riots-gop-resolution-democrats/

                Four Democrats join Republicans to pass SAVE Act bill that requires proof of citizenship to vote https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/house-vote-save-act-voter-id-b2731102.html

                Six U.S. House Dems join GOP in condemning Harris, Biden administration over border policy https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/07/25/six-u-s-house-dems-join-gop-in-condemning-harris-biden-administration-over-border-policy/

                15 Democrats Join House GOP to Pass ‘MAGA Assault’ on Nonprofits https://www.commondreams.org/news/hr-9495-passed

                Some Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down Biden’s EV mandate https://walberg.house.gov/media/in-the-news/fox-news-some-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-bidens-ev-mandate

                Most Senate Democrats Join Republicans in Calling for Corporate Tax Break https://itep.org/most-senate-democrats-join-republicans-in-calling-for-corporate-tax-break/

                Sen. Elissa Slotkin is lone Democrat to cross party lines in vote to revoke California’s EV emissions waivers https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/elissa-slotkin-california-ev-vote-senate/

                8 House Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down California’s electric vehicle mandate https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-californias-electric-vehicle-mandate

                Full List of Democrats Voting to Block California Ban on Gas-Powered Cars https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-block-california-gas-car-ban-2066890 https://www.splinter.com/35-house-democrats-join-republicans-in-declaring-themselves-enemies-of-climate-progress

                Democrats join GOP to kill air pollution, appliance rules https://www.eenews.net/articles/democrats-join-gop-to-kill-air-pollution-appliance-rules/

                House Democrats bash Senate colleagues for backing GOP spending bill: ‘Huge slap in the face’ https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5194414-house-democrats-senate-spending-bill/

                10 Democrats join with Republicans to censure Rep. Al Green for Trump speech protest https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/politics/al-green-censure-trump-protest-house

                Senate Democrats join Republicans to gut Dodd-Frank banking regulations https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/16/dodd-m16.html

                62 DEMOCRATS JOIN 207 REPUBLICANS IN VOTE TO CONCEAL GAZA DEATH TOLL https://theintercept.com/2024/06/27/congress-gaza-death-toll-democrats/

                81 Democrats Vote With GOP for Military Budget Barring Gaza Death Toll Citation https://truthout.org/articles/81-democrats-vote-with-gop-for-military-budget-barring-gaza-death-toll-citations/

                16 Democrats join most Republicans to force administration to send arms to Israel https://jewishinsider.com/2024/05/16-democrats-join-most-republicans-to-force-administration-to-send-arms-to-israel/

                Over 20 Democrats join Republicans in House censure vote of Rashida Tlaib over Israel-Hamas war comments https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-house-democrats-hold-news-briefing-after-censure-of-rep-tlaib-over-comments-on-israel

                ‘Deep sense of outrage and betrayal’: House Democrats react to Schumer announcement https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5327600/house-democrats-outrage-spending

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    I would change Republicans to ‘selfish and narrow-minded individuals’

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      So … billionaires.

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        Plenty of people who voted for the republicans are poor as shit. Selfishness doesn’t stop downwards at being rich.

        Voting for a party just because you want others to suffer more than you do is pure selfishness too.

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        Owning class.

        How much in your bank account isn’t the point — it is how that money got there. It just so happens that practically nobody ever became a billionaire without the use of exploitation.

        Yet, it is not just billionaires but any who make their income through exploiting their private ownership over the tools, land, and resources which make production possible that, under the capitalist system, entitles those “owners” to the excess value of labor, in the form of profits, that are generated by the working class – individuals who must sell their labor to these owners for a wage – under their employment.

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          There’s street people that pull the same shit as these billionaires. It’s all the same heartlessness. That’s how the game works. The gangs, cartels, and mafias all play by the same methods.

          Regular people don’t play the game and that’s why nothing will ever change. Regular people are basically taught not to play the game.

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            No, regular people play the game every day and it turns them into the same heartless bastards. That’s how the game is designed to work.

            People don’t need to play their game. They need to stop following its rules and break the whole goddamn thing to start finally doing something different

            It isn’t “gangs and cartels”, it is business owners, bankers, and landlords.

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    Forwards from (liberal) Grandma.

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