Why is this guy popping up so much lately on Lemmy? I remember thinking this guy was a piece of shit about a decade ago…
I haven’t kept up with the times. Was I right? Or did I become an angry old man 20 years to early?
You could just watch the video
Watching the video is unlikely to answer my question.
It is quite the opposite. It will answer your question in it’s first 30secs. Even reading the other comments here will. Lol.
Quite literally the opposite. The first minute does not answer my question about why he has been appearing all over lemmy. Neither do the comments here.
Sure he’s trying to degoogle. Hence this post, but that is not what I asked.
Unclear if you’re a troll or just choosing to be dense…
You might be trolling. Good luck leading your life with that wit.
Ah, clearly a degen troll. My lemmy will be a better place with you on the block list.
Crazy to see how much people on here hate this guy
yeah, super weird how people hate a fascist
I don’t mean this in a mean way, honestly curious – fascist how? As far as I know he made a couple of distasteful jokes a decade ago and apologized for it. Not great but we should stop using words like fascist and Nazi unless we can back it up.
Stop sharing and platforming the nazi
Also, this tierlist sucks fucking balls
Oh god how are there so many of you freaks
.ml is full of freaks, and so many instances do not defederate for some ungodly reason… I say make the freaks have to leave their comfort zone if they want to engage with real people.
Instance-based tribalism is stupid. I’d expect as much from a .world-er 🙃
You’re not proving me wrong here, chief.
Sarcasm, captain.
Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.
No Mull?
I couldn’t care less about what this character says.
It makes a lot of sense for someone like him to promote brave tbh
He did not promote it though. He said he uses firefox.
Seeing a lot of criticisms. Is there a better tier list then?
Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)
This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.
I’ve looked into it and it’s not even his tier list, just one he found online.
Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.
Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is “good enough”. Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.
I rather have “good enough” tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.
Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.
Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.
Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie’s advise surely is, even if its not perfect)
Sir, this is 2025, we don’t do nuanced opinions here anymore.
No Zen-Browser (though I am not sure when this vid was made), and Pale Moon should be in the “Not ideal for a normal human” at best.
What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He’s a yt star, not a privacy expert.
tits no his list
So somehow even less useful, since the source can’t even be verified.
He’s been getting into FOSS and privacy lately
So explicitly not an expert.
Yeah but he was never claiming to be. I don’t think he made any direct recommendations in the video.
Just him documenting his own journey de-googling.
My point is it serves no purpose here.
LibreWolf W. Missing my boy Zen Browser on there tho
Edit: also RIP Mull 😔✊
What happened to mull ? :o
The DivestOS project mostly discontinued. There is a Fork called IronFox
Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.
Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?
qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the “if your site doesn’t work, it’s your site’s problem” motto.
Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a “unsafe site, access anyways?” button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.
Edit: typo
Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than “all or nothing”.
IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it’s highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don’t work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There’s little in between.
I’d rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.
Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.
What’s bad about Vivaldi?
It’s proprietary
The UI is as far as I know proprietary
Nothing in the browser should be proprietary. Any proprietary part is a possibility of malice, and browsers are mission critical.
I don’t disagree with that. It’s just that most browsers are built that way, unfortunately. Nothing is free, not even Firefox. If you want to sell it, it’s hard to maintain reasonable expectations that people won’t just build it from source instead of buying it. Something 100% free can’t maintain itself over long time.
Firefox is open source, and while it takes some shady practices to fund it (it sure isn’t cheap to run your own damn engine alongside everything on top), I take it as a more tenable compromise. It’s not about free as in beer freedom, it’s about basic security.
You can also have degoogled Chromium which is open-source if you’re into it.
Even EDGE is a ungoogled Chromium (but containing M$ tracking APIs instead). Vivaldi IS a degoogled Chromium, a small part of the UI (by far the most advanced one of any other browser) is proprietary, but not really obfuscated, they show even in the support forum how the user can modding it, if for him isn’t enough what he can do in the most complete setting page ever, the only thing is, you can’t use it for other browser projects. It’s certainly not a privacy or security issue.
Chromium as is, is 100% FLOSS but because of this isn’t more private or secure as a proprietary soft, FLOSS isn’t automaticly synonym of privacy and security, a lot of people confuse it, it’s not the propósit of OpenSource, privacy and security of an soft depends only of the intentions of the developer or company, not if their soft is OSS or not. The user can audit the soft, which in any case is needed if he don’t want or be able to check millons of lines in the code which a complex soft like a browser engine has.
