• Frokke@lemmings.world
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    10 months ago

    You are hilarious. Not in a good way. You are incapable of having a normal discussion. You always, without fail go for the ad hominem. Your conduct here today is a disservice to the trans community.

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      10 months ago

      Because there is nothing here to discuss. You bring up the same old tired talking points which are always brought up by transphobes:

      • “They aren’t telling patients about the risks and dangers, I just want them to be properly informed!”, when the whole point of the long waiting times and intense process before anything medical happens is explicitly because of this issue. There is no other medical intervention with anywhere close to this amount of information, but it’s still not enough, even if you can’t put into words why.

      • “So many people regret transitioning!”, when literally almost every other medical intervention has much high regret rates (yes, even higher than the 13% you pulled out of wherever). You’re also leaving out that the biggest reason for detransitioning is missing social acceptance.

      What other points did you bring up? As I said, it’s the usual bullshit, packaged in the usual “just asking questions”. If your issue is informed consent or regret rates, why not focus on one of the hundreds of medical interventions with higher rates? Why focus on the one with incredibly low rates?

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          So you just want to spread knowledge? Again, why not focus on the issues of informed consent and regret rates of the hundreds of medical interventions that are talked about much less? Why do you focus on the one intervention that’s doing the best in those areas, and that is already talked about every day?

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            10 months ago

            Because this post is about trans care. There are certain online ethics that kinda prohibit hijacking of posts. One of the 10k today?

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              10 months ago

              How very strange and unexpected that, even though you are very interested in informing people about regret rates and informed consent of medical interventions, you’ve only chosen to actually do so for one of the least problematic interventions following your criteria. I wonder why?

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                10 months ago

                Are you that desperate to be a victim? You’d accuse others, very rudely, without any proof, just so you can play a game of gotcha?

                In another post I have mentioned having over 2 decades of experience with troubled youth and young adults. You might find the comment, you might not, I tend to delete comments often.

                In my line of work suicide of those we aim to help is a very real possibility. During those years we have lost 11 transitioned young people who explicitly mentioned their new body being a large part of the reason why they took that drastic step. They are not found in the statistics linked in this thread. Other factors did play a part, true. But those are the ones that explicitly mentioned it. A few of those mentioned explicitly how they felt under informed about the negative possibilities. They were mostly told, by people like you, online and in other trans communities, that life will be much better afterwards. Medical professionals downplayed the medical risks, complications, pain, discomfort. Oh they were mentioned, but downplayed.

                The worst thing I could wish upon you: may you be treated how you treat others.