In USA it’s legal in many states that have 16 years as the legal age of consent: Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, West Virginia, Puerto Rico.
In many more states including Michigan it is 16 unless restricted by authority, which would have made it legal if she wasn’t his teacher.
So why are people so quick to call this rape? Obviously it’s unprofessional as a teacher. But the moral age limit is definitely not as clear cut as some here seems to think.
So IMO this is not really newsworthy, She will probably be punished by the law, and lose her job, but this is not a huge scandal of pedophilia as some seems to liken it to. She abused a position of trust, and that’s about it.
I linked the Wikipedia page on age of consent above.
Obviously she would be fired from any school, and she shouldn’t have done it.
But in 14 states the age of consent is 16. Which makes it NOT illegal.
In Michigan however it is illegal until 18 when Restricted by authority.
Because it’s the fact that she’s the teacher. A position of authority. It’s why a cop cannot have sex with someone who they pulled over, or why a psychiatrist cannot date their client.
There are different kinds of abuse of position of trust, for instance if there is a threat or strong element of coercion, for instance promising promotion or threatening to fire someone. Then it is definitely rape.
I see it more as a position of trust as in parents must be able to trust the school and the teachers.
I don’t see the teacher promising better grades, hack I don’t even know if she was really his teacher?
But personally I was never one to give in to authority, maybe it’s different for other teens that age?
So maybe it was technically rape?
All due respect, but you seem to be confusing your awareness of the definition with the actual thing. Please do confirm for yourself what the details of this term are. 🙇🏼♂️✊🏼
Abusing a position of trust is a bigger deal than it seems. Being in a position of power means there was an unspoken element of coercion in the relationship.
No not really, only defined so legally in Michigan because rules are stricter than the 14+1 states I listed above. Had it been 1 of those states it would have been perfectly legal.
It’s weird to immediately be jumping to the defense of the teacher. This should not be hard to understand. A 26 year old woman raped a 16 year old. It’s very simple. That’s wrong, and in my humble opinion, worthy of punishment.
I have known about the age of consent since I was around that age myself, because we were informed about it in sex education in school.
If you don’t know these things, it’s because your school sucks, or maybe because you are stupid, or maybe you are not old enough?
Admittedly I didn’t know the difference in age in American states, because I’m in Europe, but it was extremely easy to find the page on Wikipedia, that has everything laid out very clearly.
But thanks for the implication that it should somehow be suspicious to know basic facts. You must be very special, since you suspect people for knowing things!
Edit PS:
It would also have been legal in my own country, but of course the teacher would be fired.
Considering I linked the info from wikipedia, this must be the stupidest comment in this thread.
Age of a consent is a common thing in all countries, but the age is different.
In this case, age of consent is mostly irrelevant. A 26 year old fucking a 16 year old is bad, legality is unimportant. The fact that she’s been charged, means that it’s probably not legal. How about we just say “wow, that bitch raped a child”, instead of being pedantic.
I agree that age difference should be a factor, and as you can see from the Wikipedia page I linked above, there are countries that have additional limits based on age difference.
Legality doesn’t matter to me. This is morally wrong. The age difference is wrong. The abuse of trust and authority is wrong. And linking a wikipedia page to where this would and wouldn’t be legally okay, is a little weird. A 30 year old woman fucking her 50 year old boss is wrong in a similar way, but not necessarily illegal.
This is actually legal in many countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_by_country
In USA it’s legal in many states that have 16 years as the legal age of consent: Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, West Virginia, Puerto Rico.
In many more states including Michigan it is 16 unless restricted by authority, which would have made it legal if she wasn’t his teacher.
So why are people so quick to call this rape? Obviously it’s unprofessional as a teacher. But the moral age limit is definitely not as clear cut as some here seems to think.
So IMO this is not really newsworthy, She will probably be punished by the law, and lose her job, but this is not a huge scandal of pedophilia as some seems to liken it to. She abused a position of trust, and that’s about it.
At least you got to say that pedofilia and rape are “unprofessional”.
I hope you’re never near minors unsupervised.
Illegal for Teachers with students regardless
In 14 states it’s not a crime.
Which 14?? Wtf
I linked the Wikipedia page on age of consent above.
Obviously she would be fired from any school, and she shouldn’t have done it.
But in 14 states the age of consent is 16. Which makes it NOT illegal.
In Michigan however it is illegal until 18 when Restricted by authority.
Because it’s the fact that she’s the teacher. A position of authority. It’s why a cop cannot have sex with someone who they pulled over, or why a psychiatrist cannot date their client.
Although I note the article does not say he was her student.
Next, are you going to give us a lengthy explanation of the difference between “pedophile” and “ephebophile”?
Um… “Abused a position of trust” ≠ rape? You might wanna check the definition, friend. 😅😶
Having sex with a child is rape. Statutory rape, specifically.
“Abused a position of trust” is language used in the school I worked at, so I used their wording.
Its a description, not a legal term, as far as I’m aware.
There are different kinds of abuse of position of trust, for instance if there is a threat or strong element of coercion, for instance promising promotion or threatening to fire someone. Then it is definitely rape.
I see it more as a position of trust as in parents must be able to trust the school and the teachers.
I don’t see the teacher promising better grades, hack I don’t even know if she was really his teacher?
But personally I was never one to give in to authority, maybe it’s different for other teens that age?
So maybe it was technically rape?
All due respect, but you seem to be confusing your awareness of the definition with the actual thing. Please do confirm for yourself what the details of this term are. 🙇🏼♂️✊🏼
Abusing a position of trust is a bigger deal than it seems. Being in a position of power means there was an unspoken element of coercion in the relationship.
No not really, only defined so legally in Michigan because rules are stricter than the 14+1 states I listed above. Had it been 1 of those states it would have been perfectly legal.
Why the fuck do you know any of this?
This ain’t his first Internet argument, maybe? That’s why I know it, anyway.
Knock it off with your bad-faith insinuations.
It’s weird to immediately be jumping to the defense of the teacher. This should not be hard to understand. A 26 year old woman raped a 16 year old. It’s very simple. That’s wrong, and in my humble opinion, worthy of punishment.
Tons of reasons to research this. For example: can I get person x arrested for what they did to me/my sibling
I have known about the age of consent since I was around that age myself, because we were informed about it in sex education in school.
If you don’t know these things, it’s because your school sucks, or maybe because you are stupid, or maybe you are not old enough?
Admittedly I didn’t know the difference in age in American states, because I’m in Europe, but it was extremely easy to find the page on Wikipedia, that has everything laid out very clearly.
But thanks for the implication that it should somehow be suspicious to know basic facts. You must be very special, since you suspect people for knowing things!
Edit PS:
It would also have been legal in my own country, but of course the teacher would be fired.
Your European school’s curriculum went over every single US state’s age of consent?
Considering I linked the info from wikipedia, this must be the stupidest comment in this thread.
Age of a consent is a common thing in all countries, but the age is different.
In this case, age of consent is mostly irrelevant. A 26 year old fucking a 16 year old is bad, legality is unimportant. The fact that she’s been charged, means that it’s probably not legal. How about we just say “wow, that bitch raped a child”, instead of being pedantic.
I agree that age difference should be a factor, and as you can see from the Wikipedia page I linked above, there are countries that have additional limits based on age difference.
Legality doesn’t matter to me. This is morally wrong. The age difference is wrong. The abuse of trust and authority is wrong. And linking a wikipedia page to where this would and wouldn’t be legally okay, is a little weird. A 30 year old woman fucking her 50 year old boss is wrong in a similar way, but not necessarily illegal.
Hot teacher, now stop asking.