• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    You can’t really change the system from within into a fundamentally opposed one. That’s why revolution is still necessary.

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      Of course you can. Just look at how the MAGA movement has taken over the Republican party. It started during Obama’s term, with the Tea Party movement. One-by-one, they primaried the old-school moderate Republicans, and eventually held majority control over their party’s policy decisions. Once they had that, the remaining moderates either chose to fall in line, or were forced to retire.

      That’s how democracy works. Revolution is just an excuse to kill people for their political beliefs, when you’re too lazy to convince them to change their minds.

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        You’re suggesting the extreme in the opposite direction. Rs did it with a populist. Is that the only way?

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        that’s the approach that democrats advocate; but it’s clearly not working well… or at all.

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        The MAGA movement is not opposed to the present system of capitalism. The US is not, and has never been, a democracy.

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      It’s still a net positive for candidates like Mamdani to achieve electoral victories. Even if you believe that a true socialist can never make it to a high enough office to establish a socialist government (which I agree is likely correct), making the attempt and achieving some reforms in the face of very public resistance from the bourgeoisie is great for class consciousness. It sends the message “hey, it actually is possible to improve your material conditions, and the rich really don’t want it to happen.” Give people a taste and they will want more, which is why the establishment is so terrified of Zohran Mamdani.

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        I agree that Mamdani is a positive candidate, and the fact that he beat Cuomo in the primary is a massive indicator of the real opinions held by the working class. I elaborated more elsewhere on why I support Mamdani. I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said here, my overall point is that Mamdani isn’t a substitute for revolution and it’s important to keep that in mind while we celebrate openly anti-Zionist, pro-socialist victories over establishment ghouls.