This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They’ll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.

E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just “liberating” the Ukrainian people

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  • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
    501·
    3 days ago

    The fuck… Ukraine was attacked…and you’re suggesting that their needs to be hard proof that the entire country isn’t Nazis? WTF

    • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
      351·
      3 days ago

      That and doesn’t the burden of proof fall on those making the claim? What business is it of anyone’s to prove Ukraine isn’t Nazi. When no one had proven it is.

      • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
        321·
        3 days ago

        the proof and its burden is not in question, the source of truth and its debunking is.

        ie: share links debunking the claims. they must exist? turns out they do! someone else replied with what i was looking for. :)

        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
          20·
          3 days ago

          To the people that accept russian propaganda, truth is irrelevant. If you waste time giving them proof of the basic truths the willfully reject. You have only wasted your own time and done exactly what they wanted. In this way they can keep thousands of foolish well-meaning people from simply dismissing their accusations as deserved.

          • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
            512·
            3 days ago

            i understand the sentiment. however personally I keep links to this stuff because it is important to me. thanks for your reply.

    • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      73·
      3 days ago

      Feels a lot to me like “Well imagine if you were gay in Gaza”. Whether or not there’s a lot of shitty elements to their culture, imperialist aggression is evil and civilians don’t deserve to be killed and have their homes and children stolen, and the side you support should be perfectly clear from that alone (I say all this knowing I’m probably more likely to be hate crimed for being gay in Ukraine than Gaza, because again, a country having a lot of nazis doesn’t excuse invasion and ethnic cleaning)

    • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
      67·
      3 days ago

      and did you not comprehend the concept of proving a negative? i mentioned it in my reply even. sheesh. read my other reply too.

    • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
      510·
      3 days ago

      fuck no. i am saying i would love a list of links to share with the assholes that show them the prop they pushed was wrong.

      why does that mean to you i “need hard proof” to believe something? i just want links. triggering yourself because someone asked for some info says a lot about how you may need to disconnect a hot minute.

      my neighbors are refugees from ukraine. i adore them. i can’t just ask them “why do assholes in the US claim you are nazis?” they have lost it all already.

      so … yeah. have you seen anything that is shareable with the russia agitprop assholes? not that they are convincible but yeah… helps to share.