https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/lgbtq_plus_christianity
this is probably gonna be controversial, but i mean this for people who actually follow christ’s teachings and not to be a cesspool of homophobia and transphobia.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/lgbtq_plus_christianity
this is probably gonna be controversial, but i mean this for people who actually follow christ’s teachings and not to be a cesspool of homophobia and transphobia.
Argumentum ad nauseam
Oh you’re at the infantile “I’m gonna name a fallacy as an argument” stage of your development. Congrats on turning 16.
Unfortunately, what you’re doing is called argumentum ad logicam.
More commonly known as the fallacy fallacy
You literally sent me a graphic I had to zoom in on alleging 439 “contradictions” in the Bible and telling me that my argument is invalid because I am refusing to answer every single one in a lemmy thread. I volunteered to answer any one you propose to me. Just not all 439, for the sake of time.
Sent “you”?
No, I posted one, and no I’m not saying that’s the reason.
You’re saying that the Bible being literally filled with contradictions doesn’t matter, and you base that on there being too many contradictions to answer in a Lemmy comment.
If you were arguing in good faith, you could arbitrarily pick some and show why they’re not actually contradictions. But you can’t. You can’t do it to a single one, let alone all of them.
And despite that, despite whatever, there is NOTHING that you would accept as proof of Christianity and monotheism being bad.
Literally nothing.
It doesn’t matter that historically monotheism is obviously violent and crazy, it doesn’t matter that the Catholic Church has been systematically raping little boys for God knows how long, NONE OF IT MATTERS TO YOU.
You’re literally arguing in bad faith. Yet you pretend as if naming a fallacy makes you right. Then you get even more ashamed when I point out how nerdy and wrong it is to larp a philosopher by answering with a pretentious latin form of a fallacy. I point it out with a pretentious Latin form for the fallacy you used. Then you still refuse to actually produce any rhetoric.
Like I said, there is NOTHING that would change your mind in this. The ultimate bad faith.
You posted a graphic with 439 alleged contradictions. I need to verify them actually being contradictions to answer your comment. But I have literally spent my time as I have grown up reading and investigating these alleged contradictions and couldn’t find any holding water. If you want me to arbitrarily pick one for you, I can. I just thought it would be best to let you pick a favourite.
I don’t see how other self professed monotheists raping little boys disproves monotheism. That’s like saying evolution isn’t real because scientists in that field also argued for eugenics. And yes, it does matter to me. Child abuse disgusts me at my core and I would love nothing more than to see these people drowned with a millstone… Although that’s probably too kind to them.
Anyway, Random number generator told me “205”. “At what time of day was Jesus crucified?”
Mark 15:25
John 19:14-16
Precise timekeeping is a modern innovation. Back then, they divided the day into quarters. Third hour could mean any time in the late morning or afternoon. Sixth hour could mean early or late afternoon. These people were eyeballing the sun.
That would require actually reading the Bible. Have you? I have. As I told the other person, I’ve had a Christian confirmation when I was 15.
Disproves? As in, we’re going to argue whether a single God actually exists? Don’t be childish.
My proof is that the the Bible isn’t the word of God is the Bible itself.
Eventually God can’t make a triangle which doesn’t have three angles. Because then it wouldn’t be a triangle, see? You can go ahead and start looking into those contradictions, although I assume that if you actually do, that will be the most Bible you’ve ever actually read.
Yet you defend the system which makes it possible in the first place, became the act of rape is so disconnected from you supporting Christianity that you think it’s morally alright to still “believe” despite the massive and SYSTEMIC raping of children the Catholic Church did.
It doesn’t matter what hour Jesus died in. It matters that there’s contravening accounts. If there’s a contradiction, both obviously can not be correct and thus the Bible can not be the infallible word of God, despite claiming so.
Yes I have read the Bible. I was Baptised in my early 20s. A triangle with four angles isn’t a failure of power, it’s a failure of language. We have a four angled shape God can create. It’s called a Quadrilateral.
Rapes happen in hospitals and schools - does that mean proponents of healthcare and education are defending a system that makes it possible? Shame on them, I guess.
If you had a criminal court case, and you only had one witness, it would be less reliable than one with two witnesses.
And what is scripture made out of again? God … or language?
You’re really gonna make me go through all the tedious examples of how illogical monotheism is? No thanks.
The whole Bible, not just bits which you found through googling it? The actual, whole book, from cover to cover?
You read the whole Bible before deciding everything in it is true and thats definitely possible, despite there being sentences like “God can create triangles with angles of ≠ 3?”
Alright, well, you do you m8.
If you show me a healthcare system that has as much systemic rape in it that Catholicism does, I’ll show you a healthcare system which I criticise and advocate to reform.
I’m sorry but I’m not smoking crack and can’t keep up with you.
If you had one witness with red paint on their face, saying “a guy threw red paint on my face”, and then you went on to lool for the guy mentioned, and found him, with an empty bucket of red paint and red paint all over his hands, it would be more believable than having a two guys — one with blue paint on him and one with yellow paint on him — saying “a guy threw red paint on us”, especially when you then don’t find any red paint anywhere, and even the local stores say they don’t even recall ever seeing any.
I’ve read the Bible. I don’t just Google it.
I’m literally a Protestant. I oppose “seals of confession” which allowed most of this abuse to happen. Abuse can still happen, just like how it can happen in schools and hospitals. I don’t tolerate it.
Except that’s not what’s happening. One guy said “Jesus was executed around Friday morning” and another guy said “Jesus was executed around the afternoon”, and these are two guys from 2000 years ago who’s only method of timekeeping was to look at the sun, and they split the day into quarters, it is a lot more understandable. Now say Jesus was executed at around 11am. That would both qualify as morning and around noon. If anything, it shows that they weren’t corroborating a made up story and actually witnessed something, since they both gave their estimates of the time.