• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Violent protests

    this is what the fascists want. any excuse whatsoever to declare martial law, impose curfews, ‘papers, please’ checkpoints, and ‘papers, please’ thugs going door to door, looking for anyone they don’t like so they can send them to the concentration camp.

    thoughtcrime doesn’t entail death, thoughtcrime is death

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      16 hours ago

      They said it before trump was sworn in. It will be a bloodless coup of the left allows it. The options are fascism or fight.

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      don’t act like they’re not going to do that anyway. if no one rises up and does real damage, they’ll stage something and enact martial law

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      I keep hearing this so often “they will take any opportunity to declare martial law” this so often its starting to sound like autogenocide

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        I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that’s been perpetuated by team Dem of "We’ve tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.

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        yeah, that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

        • the violence is often misdirected at people not able to bring change, eg. small businesses or cars.
        • the violence exhausts protesters. many of them being crippled or killed by police, until the protests are suppressed by too few motivated protesters being left.

        btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it’s what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off

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          Cops like it when it’s them being violent. They don’t do much when the opposition is armed and not concentrated in one small easily controlled area.

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          that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

          Non-violent ones are more effective, as per some study I saw a month or so back.

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            There is an agenda in convincing people that non violence works. Take a real look at how unions and civil rights actually happened. The non violent get credit after the fact to control the narrative.

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      We’re already at the thoughtcrime stage…

      Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they’re salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can’t have those political opinions, that’s wrongthink!

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            I have cause to believe USA makes up their own meanings of words that has nothing to do with the rest of the world meaning. You can interpret that how you will.

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              I’m talking about Mamdani specifically though. Or are you just assuming that based on your feelings about the US in general?

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                And? I live here. I like Mamdani. That doesn’t change the veracity of what I said. Perhaps your own feelings preclude that.

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          In fascist USA anyone not actively licking the boot of a billionaire is a socialist!

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            Yeah that’s the problem with American exceptionalists getting to redefine language: it doesn’t work outside our walled garden, regardless whether the fruit is nourishment or poisonous.