I have Win 11 at work and I hate it so much for so many reasons I don’t even know where to start.
I know it’s the trend right now, but I hate rounded corners for one. I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used. And the shrunken floating taskbar is a GUI ergonomic nightmare. I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
Speaking of which, my task bar keeps freezing every day I use it so my system tray and even the time is never accurate.
The start menu is a fucking mess. I really loved the Windows 10 start menu with its tiles and groups. Now you have to manually pin everything, it’s all small icons and you can’t have them in groups. You have to create sub-folders to put the icons in, adding an extra click for nothing.
I hate that it comes with an integrated AI and I hate that it has this privacy nightmare “recall” feature or whatever the fuck that takes sreenshots of your monitor to feed its AI.
I was just forced to update at work and i haven’t stopped bitching about it since!
A couple other complaints:
- I’ve been a top-taskbar person for a long time and now it’s locked to the bottom.
- Also the emoji picker isn’t as easy or efficient to use as it now requires extra inputs.
Hi. I’m a Linux convert and hate Windows as well, but I feel the need to contest some of this
I hate rounded corners […] I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used
Rounded corners only lose something like 30 pixels (assuming 100% resolution scale) out of the millions on screen. Serious question, no shade or sarcasm: do you need those corner pixels? Plus in Windows 11, the window corners are only rounded when the window is floating. The corners go square when the window is snapped and maximized so you get those corner pixels back anytime real estate matters most.
I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
That’s always been the case since… the Start menu was invented, I think? In Windows 11, just set your taskbar to Left instead of Center and you get that behavior back.
[The Start menu is] all small icons and you can’t have them in groups.
The former is correct, the latter isn’t. I exclusively keep my icons in groups, in the grid along with regular pins, on my last remaining Windows 11 computer. As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11. Closest option I have is Plasma Drawer, which works but requires me to use the KDE Menu Editor to customize which is less convenient.
The taskbar freezing thing sucks for sure, my only recommendation would be to maybe try a 3rd party replacement like StartAllBack but it isn’t free.
The rounded corners thing is definitely all about individual taste. my brain just likes to have the whole space filled. The rounded corners for me feels so… 2000’s Windows XP/ Early GNOME.
The start menu thing, yeah you can configure it. And no, before Windows 8, I think, there used to be a Gao of a few pixels around the start button if I remember well.
And as for the start menu tiles, again that’s all individual taste I guess, but I sincerely think that ergonomically speaking, it is better.
Since my work “upgraded” to windows 11 the task bar is the bane of my existence.
We all run a laptop docked with two monitors.
In windows 10 I would set a monitor as primary, drag the task bar to the laptop screen.
That would result in the most real estate for the software I use with out clutter.
Can’t fucking do this is 11.
It’s either primary or all monitors for task bar.
Someone suggested auto hide the task bar. Holy shit even that has been fucking ruined in 11. It turns off randomly and frequently. Plus notifications seem to over ride the hiding.
For those reading along, this person is talking about the KDE Plasma desktop environment. The Kubuntu Linux distribution uses it by default, but you can also install and switch to it on just about any popular Linux distro, even if it’s not the default.
I use Plasma, too. It’s good, reasonably familiar, and respects the fact that people might want to tweak things to fit their needs.
I use Arch with KDE Plasma and it looks like a clean version of the traditional desktop you’d expect on Windows, with a bottom taskbar, start menu, etc. But with a really clean theme and tailored to my needs.
My wife is also using Arch with the exact same KDE Plasma version… But hers looks exactly like a Mac, with a rounded translucent dock, a menu bar at the top, widgets, animated wallpapers and so on.
So yeah KDE Plasma is amazing, it will adapt to your exact preferences and not get in the way.
I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
So change it, that’s a setting that’s been there since day one on W11 to move the Start menu and taskbar stuff back to the left corner.
The start menu is a fucking mess. I really loved the Windows 10 start menu with its tiles and groups. Now you have to manually pin everything, it’s all small icons and you can’t have them in groups. You have to create sub-folders to put the icons in, adding an extra click for nothing.
The tiles were one of the biggest things people complained about on Windows 8 and 10 compared to previous versions. The Windows 11 Start Menu works more like previous versions in this regard, because that’s something people were VERY vocal about wanting back.
People were used to the multi-level app menu in Windows 7 and before. The tiled menu might have been too much of a change. But it made sense. Less frequently used applications could have smaller icons and more commonly used one have bigger icons so they’re easier to find and click. It was great ergonomically speaking.
I have Win 11 at work and I hate it so much for so many reasons I don’t even know where to start.
I know it’s the trend right now, but I hate rounded corners for one. I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used. And the shrunken floating taskbar is a GUI ergonomic nightmare. I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
Speaking of which, my task bar keeps freezing every day I use it so my system tray and even the time is never accurate.
The start menu is a fucking mess. I really loved the Windows 10 start menu with its tiles and groups. Now you have to manually pin everything, it’s all small icons and you can’t have them in groups. You have to create sub-folders to put the icons in, adding an extra click for nothing.
I hate that it comes with an integrated AI and I hate that it has this privacy nightmare “recall” feature or whatever the fuck that takes sreenshots of your monitor to feed its AI.
I went 100% Linux last fall with Kubuntu. I added a tiled menu and even added Windows 10 style window decorations to complete the look and feel.
With the latest advancements in Steam, Wine and Proton, which has been able to play every game I threw at it so far, it’s become such a powerful OS.
I’ve never been happier!
A lot of those problems is 100% fixable through the settings menu…
If you have privileges from corporate IT and it doesn’t get reverted, or overridden to push more AI.
And so you spend hours tweaking the UI only to have it nuked by an update. If you’re gonna rice your desktop, run Linux!
For 48h until they update
I was just forced to update at work and i haven’t stopped bitching about it since!
A couple other complaints:
- I’ve been a top-taskbar person for a long time and now it’s locked to the bottom.
- Also the emoji picker isn’t as easy or efficient to use as it now requires extra inputs.
Thanks Winblows devs. I hate you. 🥰
Hi. I’m a Linux convert and hate Windows as well, but I feel the need to contest some of this
Rounded corners only lose something like 30 pixels (assuming 100% resolution scale) out of the millions on screen. Serious question, no shade or sarcasm: do you need those corner pixels? Plus in Windows 11, the window corners are only rounded when the window is floating. The corners go square when the window is snapped and maximized so you get those corner pixels back anytime real estate matters most.
That’s always been the case since… the Start menu was invented, I think? In Windows 11, just set your taskbar to Left instead of Center and you get that behavior back.
The former is correct, the latter isn’t. I exclusively keep my icons in groups, in the grid along with regular pins, on my last remaining Windows 11 computer. As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11. Closest option I have is Plasma Drawer, which works but requires me to use the KDE Menu Editor to customize which is less convenient.
The taskbar freezing thing sucks for sure, my only recommendation would be to maybe try a 3rd party replacement like StartAllBack but it isn’t free.
The rounded corners thing is definitely all about individual taste. my brain just likes to have the whole space filled. The rounded corners for me feels so… 2000’s Windows XP/ Early GNOME.
The start menu thing, yeah you can configure it. And no, before Windows 8, I think, there used to be a Gao of a few pixels around the start button if I remember well.
And as for the start menu tiles, again that’s all individual taste I guess, but I sincerely think that ergonomically speaking, it is better.
Since my work “upgraded” to windows 11 the task bar is the bane of my existence.
We all run a laptop docked with two monitors. In windows 10 I would set a monitor as primary, drag the task bar to the laptop screen. That would result in the most real estate for the software I use with out clutter.
Can’t fucking do this is 11. It’s either primary or all monitors for task bar. Someone suggested auto hide the task bar. Holy shit even that has been fucking ruined in 11. It turns off randomly and frequently. Plus notifications seem to over ride the hiding.
It’s a fucking mess I tell ya. They put all the effort into spying on their users instead of making the actual OS function.
If you have multiple monitors, change the setting so it only displays on the primary monitor and see if that makes a difference.
Ah yes, it does happen when I have an extra monitor. I’ll try it next time.
Thanks!
For those reading along, this person is talking about the KDE Plasma desktop environment. The Kubuntu Linux distribution uses it by default, but you can also install and switch to it on just about any popular Linux distro, even if it’s not the default.
I use Plasma, too. It’s good, reasonably familiar, and respects the fact that people might want to tweak things to fit their needs.
I use Arch with KDE Plasma and it looks like a clean version of the traditional desktop you’d expect on Windows, with a bottom taskbar, start menu, etc. But with a really clean theme and tailored to my needs.
My wife is also using Arch with the exact same KDE Plasma version… But hers looks exactly like a Mac, with a rounded translucent dock, a menu bar at the top, widgets, animated wallpapers and so on.
So yeah KDE Plasma is amazing, it will adapt to your exact preferences and not get in the way.
So change it, that’s a setting that’s been there since day one on W11 to move the Start menu and taskbar stuff back to the left corner.
The tiles were one of the biggest things people complained about on Windows 8 and 10 compared to previous versions. The Windows 11 Start Menu works more like previous versions in this regard, because that’s something people were VERY vocal about wanting back.
And I really don’t get it.
People were used to the multi-level app menu in Windows 7 and before. The tiled menu might have been too much of a change. But it made sense. Less frequently used applications could have smaller icons and more commonly used one have bigger icons so they’re easier to find and click. It was great ergonomically speaking.
The people were wrong! lol