Not an American, but I just noticed that the election day is on the 5th of November. Given the similarities between Trump and the chancellor, it seems like a good opportunity to remind people what is coming if they vote for Trump.
For those who haven’t watched V for Vendetta, do it, the reference will make sense.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason
Why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.
The chancellor from the movie orthe chancellor from the original comics?
Alan Moore may not like Trump (I don’t “like” Trump but think he’s normal as far as not-so-good presidents go, it will always be normal to get one of those each decade), but he said he didn’t like that the movie took away the leadership ambiguity his original comic had.
Even as another movement steps into light, I don’t think the mask is best changed, that part is fine, but it would be stereotypical haste to not wait for something explicit/outright. What has Trump actually done that screams “I am an outright villain for this nation, fear me”? The Guy Fawkes groups are largely inactive in the discourse of Eastern nations, does that imply relative complicitness there?
I’m not American but IMO it has become far too associated with Anonymous and the stereotype of a rogue black hat hacker. Most people wouldn’t get the reference to the movie. They’d just wonder if you are the notorious hacker known as 4chan
No. The answer to Trump is not anarchism.
Second, those masks are associated with a whole bunch of events I wouldn’t want to associate with. They were also worn at the Jan. 6 riots.
Third, I’ve seen firsthand how much those masks piss cops off. If I were to attend some event, I might want to cover my face. I wouldn’t do it with a glaring, neon “shoot me now” Guy Fawkes mask.
I’d add a fourth-
The last thing that needs to happen is for people to be too intimidated to vote.
Do i get a discount “vote twice” if I wear one?
maybe if it’s KN-95
We have thing about masks…
I’m in agreement with others in that a British guy isn’t the best choice and also that anything resembling voter intimidation isn’t what we need.
I think Lincoln would be a better character to choose as a mask. He’s an American hero, and due to party on one hand and actions on the other, it adds anonymity as to the affiliation of the wearer as both sides of the political fence hold him up as virtuous.
I just finished up a biographical podcast of George Orwell, and much was discussed about him being used symbolically by both the right and left. I feel Lincoln fits the same circumstances, being the first Republican president, though his actions fit more to the current left. If we see a return of the loss of habeus corpus, that’s be another thing they’d have in common. I don’t want to be right on that though…
No
No. Though it’s been used in recent times during all sorts of protests, its meaning and what kinds of protests in appears at are all over the map. It was even used by some during the January 6th insurrection. It’s also appeared alongside a fedora often enough that it gives me a little cringe to see it outside of an organized protest. If you really want to make a difference, get involved in an organization instead of fantasizing about being some lone wolf that takes down an individual to magically solve systemic problems. If you need to hide your face at a protest, try something that doesn’t provide royalties to a huge corporation.
Most people in America have no idea who Guy Fawkes was.
“Look, 4chan is here!”
Most people don’t period. He was a Catholic that wanted a theocracy. Just because V for Vendetta promoted the guy doesn’t mean he should have been promoted.
He was also the idiot who got caught… The whole gunpowder conspiracy went up in smoke (bad joke very much intended) when he gave up all his co-conspirators… He was not alone in being a dumb-ass, others did make mistakes, like writing their friends to not go to parlanent that day.
Its no suprise England mocks him every year on his “holiday”.
Its both the holywood depiction of an idiot with poor planning on one hand, combined wit h the other hand-the somewhat callective fantasy of many a culture, especially one such as the Brits, of clearing out the miserableb power structure in such dramatic ways. Thats why the holiday is still around. It wasn’t anything in particular about that plot by itself, after all I’m sure since then but didn’t have caught many of more political terrorists.
V for Vendetta was very popular when it came out and I think most of us would recognize the mask.
When I see it, the first thing I think of is Anonymous, not Guy Fawkes or V for Vendetta.
No, that’s cringe. Also having British iconography in an American election is repugnant.
Considering voter ID is required in most states now, you have to show your face in order to vote.
Also, this really wouldn’t work in Oregon since it’s all vote by mail there.
We don’t … Record and broadcast election venues? This would be weird. If some people did do it, only people at their specific voting site would see it.
