Cross disciplinary skills for the win yo!
You post this and let us wonder how this might actually work without any pictures of the replicas??? :O
ETA: here are some examples in the video, unfortunately not the one in the meme…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324900204578286272195339456
How do you sew hair?
Haven’t black women been doing this forever? My coworkers talk about sew-in weaves and shit all the time.
loops
That sounds incredibly tedious for anyone with hair shorter than “eligible to be donated to replace a horse tail”
I can’t imagine a human being doing something tedious for style, I mean can you imagine.
Ever time I see someone wearing their pants almost around their knees, I reminded myself about this fact.
…am I missing something? These are stone. They’re carved. How did they know these were real styles used with people, and not fantastical for the statues?
Wouldn’t fit with the artistical trends of the times… It’s not a bad hypothesis, but if that was a trend the hair is not the only feature that could be imagined.
Now I can’t stop picturing archeologists unearthing an anime bust.
Future archeologists digging up statues of 2B -
She also has a YouTube channel!
I’d trust a hairdresser when it comes to hair questions…
Bad at styling my long hair but I have definitely tried and from what I did in the few hair tutorials I followed, and from knitting, I absolutely believe that making these complicated, pretty, structured knots/loops was done by sewing.
Why werent they consulting hairdresser in the first place? They can’t be experts because they’re not academics? is that the reasoning?
It’s made up, like facebook clickbait. Archeologists are not idiots.
Honestly I’m swallowing this wholesale if it happened until like the early 90s or something. Maybe even later. To think of roman hairdressing styles as entirely an archeological question and never one where you might ask a hairdresser seems pretty par for the course for academia
If it happened in 1940 maybe.
I mean, tons of archaeologists have historically been idiots and loved white-male-splaining (among other 'splainings) things to indigenous cultures and discounting their works because no way could these black/indian/female/whatever people possibly be able to conceive of such a thing as this! Some of it could even have arguably spawned the ancient aliens bullshit because it must have been some kind of intelligent race and certainly not the ancient people of this land. Old antiquarians were often even worse.
Not in this case though.
Correct. I just didnt want people to have the impression that there aren’t problementic archaeologists.
This is why you go to subject matter experts.
/Software development rant
/fucking everything rant. Scholars and management alike are terrible at this
As others replies have said, it seems that her expertise was welcomed in the community.
Having spent my fair share of time in grad school, my experience with the arrogant scholar trope is…not exactly what this meme suggests. Academics certainly can have strongly held beliefs, but often are very good at gauging their own certainty. If a professor is lamenting that data taken around 3:17pm always looks bad, and the janitor says “well the electric tram goes by around then” — well, I have never met a professor or postdoc who wouldn’t take that very seriously.
In software development you have contractors and product owners who forge ahead and do things without consulting subject matter experts. This often leads to spaghetti code and rushed garbage when things ultimately need to be patched.
So wigs, not mittens.
I’ve seen something like this referenced a couple times now, what is it?
Answering that question comes with a nobel price attached i presume.
What we know is this:
They are made during roman times, They are found wherever the roman empire stretched and there not considered very rare
Thats about it.
The notable theories are
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as a weird currency
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well known blacksmith “exam”
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for knitting, apparently it has been demonstrated that you can use them to knit in practice but the art of knitting is thought to originate much later in history.
My money is now on wig building tools. As a spinoff to the common knitting one.
My personal theory - used as a quick method for evaluating the value of gold and silver coins.
Holes are for diameter, the bumps are used to estimate thickness.
My first reaction to seeing these objects was “they look like jointing frames for combining multiple rods”. You’d feed long cylindrical rods into the holes, then use the little knobs to affix them, using them as anchor points for tying the rods into place with string/rope (presumably the rods would have grooves in them to take the rope). Maybe you could make a little tent in this manner, something light, perhaps a bug net for your bed, or something along those lines. Or maybe they were already describing atomic structures 🤓
Complete nonsense, of course. But that was just my first reaction!
This might be the highest effort Lemmy comment yet? Great quality on these drawings, clear and concise, and genuinely makes you think and wonder. I give you this award: 🏆
Haha I’ll take it!
Revere the ancient K’nex
I’ve lived for 33 years, 12 or so if those years heavily featuring K’nex and only after reading your comment realised that K’nex is a phonetic play on “connects”.
This comment is also true for me
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This is after step one, cut a hole in the box.
And that’s the way you do it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron
Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.
Emphasis mine.
I use them for crafting
Image: a Prime Chaotic Resonator crafting orb from the ARPG Path of Exile.
lmao I didn’t get past the first sentence before I knew it was sewn/braided
GLAM = Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums
“Historical hairdressing tutorials based on archaeological research and primary sources.”
https://www.youtube.com/@jntvstp
Janet Stephens; that’s her. i knew i kept that yt subscription for a reason
I guess there had to be a way to have fake-ass hair extensions before plastic was invented.
I read that as “Ass-hair extensions”
Xkcd is always and forever relevant
Thanks to that XKCD I have been doing this for years.
Admit it: You didn’t even have to follow the link did you?
100% correct. I did not.
I have gotten some weird looks because of it.
I asked my brother once “what is an ass-kite” after he said “wow that is a big-ass kite”
Dammit.
This is what made me finally get a stable diffusion account.
The results were dissapointing.
I love this story because just imagine the setup.
All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. “they’re definitely sewed 💀😭💅”. But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie’s hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid’s name? Albert fucking Einstein.
Not sure whether you meant to express disbelief or just to be silly, but you did make me wonder if this meme was legit or not. It is!
Definitely just being silly. Thank you do much for the link. I just disliked how dramatized the meme version sounded and doubled down on it.
Yes, but also:
And the journals quickly recognized her expertise.
So no crying historians in that story. She researched, proposed an article and the community said: “Good idea!” The whole “Oh, all those fine scientists laughed about the average joe/jane!” is just a common tale in those stories.
It’s a common conservative thing to own the libs.
Also wasn’t so fast:
Through trial and error she found that she could achieve the hairstyle by sewing the braids and bits together, using a needle. She dug deeper into art and fashion history books, looking for references to stitching.
In 2005, she had a breakthrough. Studying translations of Roman literature, Ms. Stephens says, she realized the Latin term “acus” was probably being misunderstood in the context of hairdressing. Acus has several meanings including a “single-prong hairpin” or “needle and thread,” she says. Translators generally went with “hairpin.”
Thanks to you and @[email protected] both for pointing those things out. I was only checking the part about the hairstyle being made through sewing, and didn’t think to check for dramatization, so I may have retold or personally internalized the story that goes with the sewing fact exactly as told in the meme. Or onlookers might have.
If “acus” means that, then i wonder, how does “abacus” mean a thing you count with? Etymology is fascinating :)
Wow, that’s some serious anthropology, that’s awesome!
Aren’t weaves basically sewn in?