• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    …am I missing something? These are stone. They’re carved. How did they know these were real styles used with people, and not fantastical for the statues?

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      9 months ago

      Wouldn’t fit with the artistical trends of the times… It’s not a bad hypothesis, but if that was a trend the hair is not the only feature that could be imagined.

      Now I can’t stop picturing archeologists unearthing an anime bust.

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    10 months ago

    I’d trust a hairdresser when it comes to hair questions…

    Bad at styling my long hair but I have definitely tried and from what I did in the few hair tutorials I followed, and from knitting, I absolutely believe that making these complicated, pretty, structured knots/loops was done by sewing.

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      10 months ago

      It’s made up, like facebook clickbait. Archeologists are not idiots.

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        10 months ago

        Honestly I’m swallowing this wholesale if it happened until like the early 90s or something. Maybe even later. To think of roman hairdressing styles as entirely an archeological question and never one where you might ask a hairdresser seems pretty par for the course for academia

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        10 months ago

        I mean, tons of archaeologists have historically been idiots and loved white-male-splaining (among other 'splainings) things to indigenous cultures and discounting their works because no way could these black/indian/female/whatever people possibly be able to conceive of such a thing as this! Some of it could even have arguably spawned the ancient aliens bullshit because it must have been some kind of intelligent race and certainly not the ancient people of this land. Old antiquarians were often even worse.

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        10 months ago

        As others replies have said, it seems that her expertise was welcomed in the community.

        Having spent my fair share of time in grad school, my experience with the arrogant scholar trope is…not exactly what this meme suggests. Academics certainly can have strongly held beliefs, but often are very good at gauging their own certainty. If a professor is lamenting that data taken around 3:17pm always looks bad, and the janitor says “well the electric tram goes by around then” — well, I have never met a professor or postdoc who wouldn’t take that very seriously.

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          10 months ago

          In software development you have contractors and product owners who forge ahead and do things without consulting subject matter experts. This often leads to spaghetti code and rushed garbage when things ultimately need to be patched.

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        10 months ago

        Answering that question comes with a nobel price attached i presume.

        What we know is this:

        They are made during roman times, They are found wherever the roman empire stretched and there not considered very rare

        Thats about it.

        The notable theories are

        • as a weird currency

        • well known blacksmith “exam”

        • for knitting, apparently it has been demonstrated that you can use them to knit in practice but the art of knitting is thought to originate much later in history.

        My money is now on wig building tools. As a spinoff to the common knitting one.

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          10 months ago

          My personal theory - used as a quick method for evaluating the value of gold and silver coins.

          Holes are for diameter, the bumps are used to estimate thickness.

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          10 months ago

          My first reaction to seeing these objects was “they look like jointing frames for combining multiple rods”. You’d feed long cylindrical rods into the holes, then use the little knobs to affix them, using them as anchor points for tying the rods into place with string/rope (presumably the rods would have grooves in them to take the rope). Maybe you could make a little tent in this manner, something light, perhaps a bug net for your bed, or something along those lines. Or maybe they were already describing atomic structures 🤓

          Complete nonsense, of course. But that was just my first reaction!

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            10 months ago

            This might be the highest effort Lemmy comment yet? Great quality on these drawings, clear and concise, and genuinely makes you think and wonder. I give you this award: 🏆

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              9 months ago

              I’ve lived for 33 years, 12 or so if those years heavily featuring K’nex and only after reading your comment realised that K’nex is a phonetic play on “connects”.

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          10 months ago

          I use them for crafting

          Image: a Prime Chaotic Resonator crafting orb from the ARPG Path of Exile.

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    10 months ago

    I guess there had to be a way to have fake-ass hair extensions before plastic was invented.

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    10 months ago

    I love this story because just imagine the setup.

    All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. “they’re definitely sewed 💀😭💅”. But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie’s hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid’s name? Albert fucking Einstein.

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        10 months ago

        Definitely just being silly. Thank you do much for the link. I just disliked how dramatized the meme version sounded and doubled down on it.

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        10 months ago

        Yes, but also:

        And the journals quickly recognized her expertise.

        So no crying historians in that story. She researched, proposed an article and the community said: “Good idea!” The whole “Oh, all those fine scientists laughed about the average joe/jane!” is just a common tale in those stories.

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          10 months ago

          It’s a common conservative thing to own the libs.

          Also wasn’t so fast:

          Through trial and error she found that she could achieve the hairstyle by sewing the braids and bits together, using a needle. She dug deeper into art and fashion history books, looking for references to stitching.

          In 2005, she had a breakthrough. Studying translations of Roman literature, Ms. Stephens says, she realized the Latin term “acus” was probably being misunderstood in the context of hairdressing. Acus has several meanings including a “single-prong hairpin” or “needle and thread,” she says. Translators generally went with “hairpin.”

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            10 months ago

            Thanks to you and @[email protected] both for pointing those things out. I was only checking the part about the hairstyle being made through sewing, and didn’t think to check for dramatization, so I may have retold or personally internalized the story that goes with the sewing fact exactly as told in the meme. Or onlookers might have.

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            10 months ago

            If “acus” means that, then i wonder, how does “abacus” mean a thing you count with? Etymology is fascinating :)

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              10 months ago

              It looks like abacus is of uncertain origin and likely doesn’t share the same root as acus. Finding unexpected histories of words is the fun part of etymology though. Like how donkey ass and butt ass have completely different origins