Literally. I open up my terminal and try to cd Desktop only to be told that no such file exists. I thought for sure everyone this was happening to was just not reading something correctly and were foolish. Nope! It literally began deleting my files.

Edit 2: Even once it’s done and you have them locally and not “on demand”, the Desktop is in ~/OneDrive/Desktop instead of ~/Desktop. See this helpful comment.

It looks like there might be a way to sort of disable Files on Demand but it looks like it won’t let me do it until it’s done uploading? I’ll post updates.

Not to be dramatic, but I’m really going through it. My mouse logitech mouse is suddenly chattering really bad and double clicking everything. Also while Steam refuses to let me disable auto updates for all games in any sort of easy way. And DDG seems intent on only showing me results related to launching games without updating (as opposed to merely disabling auto updates until I launch). The chatter fixer I found for my mouse does not work and the other requires some logitech program to even try to use. (The repo doesn’t mention the name.) This is awful. When it rains it pours, I guess. Literally can’t even high light this text to wrap it in a spoiler. This is fucking stupid.

Context: My parents have a family plan for Microsoft 365 they added me too and it has 1 TB of storage I can use. I wouldn’t have turned it on otherwise.


Edit: My desktop background has literally vanished and turned solid black.

DO NOT ENABLE ONE DRIVE.

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    For your mouse double click issue, I have a g600 and ran into the same thing. It’s due to a teeny tiny copper plate in the switch degrading over time. I’m not confident in my soldering skills to swap out the whole switches, but I was able to buy some new switches for like $5, pop open the little plastic switch box, carefully pull out the little copper plate with tweezers, pop open the switch on my mouse, and carefully replace the little copper plate with the new one. Worked like a charm.

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      Do you perchance know if a similar manoeuver can be attempted to fix a mouse wheel click issue?

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        I think that would be more difficult because that is a different much smaller switch if I remember correctly.

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      Are you me? I had the same Logitech mouse click issue and fixed it the same way; ordered extra switches online, opened them, and swapped only the copper plate. Mouse click works like a charm, as you said.

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      I had the same issue a few years ago. After spending forever looking for a solution online, I found a fantastic video that explained the reason for this degradation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA

      TLDW, it has to do with some components (the contact plates) being rated for electronics of the 90s, with higher voltage than today’s devices use. So these components are now subject to below optimal voltages (say, 1.8V or 3.3V), and tiny sparks happen that would not be there at 5V, thus damaging the plate ever so slightly.

      Immediately after watching that video, I opened my mouse and scratched the plates with a flat screwdriver. I haven’t had a problem since then (it’s been a couple of years). But if it happens again I know exactly what to do to save my beloved G302.

      Also, fuck OneDrive.

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    Was a computer repair tech until a few months ago. About 6 months ago this older guy brought in his laptop because he had been hacked and they had changed his password. Was able to change the password to something new using some fancy tools but upon getting in all his files were still missing. Turns out OneDrive was on and ALL of his important files were only on OneDrive and not the computer. Well, Microsoft had changed his password when the hackers changed his computer password so he was locked out and Microsoft didn’t believe he owned the account anymore since he didn’t know the password. After weeks of calls he just gave up trying to get his stuff back.

    Fuck OneDrive.

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      I’m confused. Wouldn’t he have access to his email and maybe phone number that is attached to his Microsoft account to prove who he is?

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      I get the hate, but what is Microsoft to do in those situations? They have two users claiming to own the account, each with assumably the same level of proof (virtually none) and no backup recovery set. So what, they just believe the first person to call in and say “I was hacked can I have a new password”?

      Unless something that links to the owner in a verifiable way exists on the account, which isn’t available to someone logged in (credit card number used for purchase for instance), I don’t really see a way around this.

      The same thing happens with game accounts all the time. Two people with the same level of proof claim they own an account? Unfortunately the account gets marked as irreversibly compromised and permanently banned.

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        Its more that they created an unfixable situation, not that they can’t solve it

        Its pretty shitty to ask for forgiveness not permission just to advertise onedrive

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          I don’t know that I’d consider this their fault. The user handed their info over to someone else. Yeah, it sucks that the end result is losing their files, but you can’t really hold a company responsible for their users doing dumb things.

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            They tool his files then told him he wanted that, then removed access.

            Modern day cooperation’s are worse than 90’s scammers

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            The root of the problem is that Microsoft deleted his files off of his hard drive, without his understanding/consent. Had they not done that, there would have been no problem.

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              No? The “root of the problem” is that the cloud service the files were stored in, was deauthed. At that point, I would absolutely expect all files to be deleted.

              You can argue that M$ shouldn’t have pushed for that by default, but the problem as described is “user stored their important files in one drive, they gave away their password, password was changed, new password was unknown, one drive removed all local copies of files stored in it, microsoft couldn’t verify who they were when they called.”

              Had this been the other way around, where the scammer got file access and the original user reset their password, you’d expect the scammer to have the local copies deleted… would you not?

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            The issue here is that OneDrive does not make it clear at all that your local files are going away when you enable OneDrive. On Demand is now on by default for everyone. Unless you know this is a thing that happens (or happen to catch weirdness like I did where the Desktop folder seemed to vanish because it was moved) there is no indication this is happening. That’s why this is Microsoft’s fault.

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              Yeah, that doesn’t really apply to the story I was replying to. The complaint was about Microsoft not believing the user owned the account.

              It’s tangentially related to the overall topic, and that could indeed be the root cause, but “they didn’t give him access because he didn’t know the new password” is security 101.

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                Fair enough, “the user handed their info over to someone” sounded like you meant their files to OneDrive.

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        There are almost always ways to verify the correct owner for something like this… None of which it sounds like Microsoft was willing to do, as they only seemed to care about what the current password is.

        You are making an assumption that the person can’t provide any way to identify himself as the owner. The story as written states they didn’t care about anything other than the current password.

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          Almost always != always, and an individual falling for a scam where they hand off their password would typically fall into the category of “unable to prove ownership”.

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            Yeah, like almost always what? Almost always hitting dismiss on all of the phone number verification and 2fa prompts because they’re “annoying”?

            Insert surprised Pikachu face here

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    My mouse logitech mouse is suddenly chattering really bad and double clicking everything

    Is is a G903 you using? It’s a issue with cheap ass switches if that’s the case. I RMAed one and the replacement did it even faster than the first. Gave up on that one.

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      I wanna say it’s a G506 or something? It’s that one that like everyone has because it was ~$80 and there was a deal years ago at Best Buy that included a $50 Steam gift card. I don’t remember how long I’ve had it but it’s certainly out of warranty.

      It’s sort of always had this problem but suddenly it got A LOT worse. It’s around the same time as a Windows update. Makes me wonder if Windows was filtering out some of the clicks that were insanely close together before.

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      Every wireless mouse I’ve ever owned starts double clicking after like a year and a half or two years. The only exception is the Razer Basilisk I bought about 3 years ago, that ones still ok so far

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      I already planned on my next computer being Linux Mint, but it’s getting more and more desired as time goes on.

      I was playing Elden Ring when it began stuttering, turns out Windows Defender was just constantly reading the disk (I still have a hard drive). Finally turned off maximum priority (seemingly random) scans in task scheduler when I began stuttering again. This time it was Windows Compatibility Telemetry taking up 50% of the disk, until I finally found a way to turn that off.

      It’d be so nice to have an OS that doesn’t run random unnecessary things without your permission.

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        As a gamer, I was anxious about switching to Linux as my daily driver, but I needed to fully immerse myself to improve at Linux, and I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how few gaming related problems I’ve had.

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        No time like the present!

        I shifted all my important data to an external disk, wiped the main ssd, slapped Debian on there, then moved the data back. Great way to spend an afternoon.

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          I likely would but my computer’s from 2016 with no upgrades, so I’m on the cusp of building a new one from scratch.

          After I do that though the old one’s becoming a linux server for sure.

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            hmmn, HDD? you really need to replace that for your main drive if you can - whatever the os .

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            I just put mint on a 2015 dell shit laptop that barley functioned with windows. Now it’s a perfectly fine computer. I don’t do much besides use the internet but it struggled with that before.

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            That’s still newer than any of my daily-use laptops that are all running full-featured Linux distros just fine. I got 'em all cheap secondhand, and just pumped up the RAM (12-16GB) and installed SSDs.

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            I’m daily driving a 2013 laptop on Endeavour and it feels as fast as new stuff. Doing a lot of relatively heavy compute on it too.

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            TBF you’d probably get even more benefit from de-bloating that PC then. Free up some processing power for the tasks you actually want, instead of doing Microsofts bidding in the background all the time.

            But we’ve all got different plans/priorities/timelines. Best of luck to you m8!

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      Hell yeah bro same. I’ve been amazed at how much better Linux is in just about every way, except for native software availability, but it’ll get there. I feel like Microsoft is approaching the tipping point for shit people will put up with, and desktop Linux is so good now that non-technical people can move over to it.

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    OneDrive is literally built on fucked tech from the get go and Microsoft initially even pointed out in its online documentation that it is NOT a backup solution, but just a way to enable cloud sharing of documents to access them from anywhere. Their higher-ups decided to make it into something it was never originally intended to be, which is why it is constantly a disaster with people losing documents due to sync problems.

    Sorry for the rant, I just fucking hate OneDrive with a deep passion due to the higher leadership at my work forcing us to shutdown our local file shares and making our entire org migrate all our data to SharePoint Online. It has been a miserable transition and I’m in charge of migrating over 100TB and tens of millions of files from over 30 departments. Let me just say SPO is NOT a fileshare solution, and despite me pointing this out countless times it has fallen on deaf ears. Everyone hates it and its limitations are insane (e.g. no more than 100,000 files per document library, 400 character limit for file paths including the base URL, etc). And on top of that all, we have warned customers countless times NOT to sync their OneDrives to any document library or they WILL have problems. Do they listen? Of fucking course they don’t. We’ve had endless tickets and the migration isn’t even complete yet.

    Tldr; fuck OneDrive and fuck SharePoint Online.

    /Endrant

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      Jeez how long did it take to upload that 100tb? I’ve had files 50gb in size that have taken hours because of their 30-100mbps upload speed.

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        We started the project about 4 months ago now and have been doing it in chunks. It’s a lot more complicated than it seems at face value (migrating/recreating ACLs, removing stale content ahead of time, discovering some applications will not work with data on SPO such as CAD type apps, etc etc). I anticipate we’ll be complete in about another month at most.

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      fuck OneDrive and SharePoint online forever. That migration sounds fucking terrible lol, we just got done doing something similar although much lower scale. The character limit for sure was a huge headache, so is the 100,000 file limit.

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      I feel your pain man. Our university of 40k people did the same thing “from on high” and we ran into the same problems in our lab. We only had 4 million files to move into a Teams share. Which, btw, takes about 5 weeks to “sync” to OneDrive, which is how we were expected to replace our workflow instead of a shared network storage drive our lab owned

      q_q

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      you’re not alone. Ours did that about 3 years ago. Still fucked.

      and now they’re gladly moving more and more business critical data into things like ms dynamics, or ms reporting databases into fabric.

      We cant even acess half of our own workflow data because of not having enough the right dynamics licenses.

      Yes a fucking shared excel file with a task log linking to local network folders was better. It was our fucking data , our data model and our fucking filing system. and all the staff knew how too use it. so much more time was spent actually doing work. we ever used to haveto trawl through version histories looking for the magic file version that would not flip to 0kb as soon as you open it. And we used to have fucking locale timestamps, not random bullshit cloud-o’clock, and dumbfuck US mm/dd/yyyy sorted in literal order bullshit.

      fuck ms, and fuck my employer for keeping on paying them.

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    One drive does suck nards, but for your double clicking; logitech has been using shitass switches to detect clicks for a while now. They sooner rather than later fail to click once. Only solution I’ve found is to replace the switches (hard mode), or keep using the logitech mouse I have from 2009.

    It’s sucks, but you just gotta go for another brand. Even razer doesn’t have such a rampant double click problem.

    Logitech enshitified their dominant market position by cheaping on switches - works for them, they sell more mice (if you don’t put together they’re the source of the problem and it’s not a one-off issue).

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        Mine is a G5, which looks like it lost the MX518’s sick ass faux metal and instead gets what I can best call “cracked lightning?”. I was too young to figure out mouse buying so the fam’s resident nerd chose that for me - I thank her to this day

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          I had a G5 for close to a decade and I miss that heavy little bugger. I’ve got a G502 right now and its rather good, but the max weight isn’t as heavy as my old one.

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            I had to replace the cable on my G5 after it frayed after about a decade, but after that it was back to it. Sorry you lost yours, and I hope you never double click on the G502!

            (All the weights gang, build that wrist strength)

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              Yep, that’s what happened to mine. The jacket frayed until the wire got out and strangled itself. My 502 is still rocking strong after 5+ years, but here’s hoping your g5 sticks around for a while, that was a great mouse.

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      The switches do suck but they can usually be revived with contact cleaner. If you open the mouse you can spray around the switch plunger or better yet, pop off the top half of the switch case and spray the contact directly. That completely cleared up the double click on my G402 and even revived an old MX510 that was missing clicks.

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      That’s the reason why I switched to a steelseries mouse with optical switches. The mechanics look like they should last forever.

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      Where did I say it was on Linux? For the record, they do have a Mac client so they might have a Linux one too.

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        I think it was assumed based on your use of command line and unix-like paths such as ~/Desktop, which do not work in Windows Command Prompt. (Powershell has aliases for unix commands like ls, so unix paths do work there)

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    Just an FYI, Windows likely just moved your files from users\[username] to users\[username]\OneDrive instead. When OneDrive sets itself up, it basically grabs all of the relevant folders and moves them into a single “OneDrive” folder. Not a huge issue if you’re setting up the PC for the first time. But if you’ve been using the PC for a while, it’ll break everything because now all of your local files have moved and none of your systems are pointing at the right location anymore. For instance, your desktop is likely black because your image file got moved into that OneDrive folder.