• fxomt's on dbzer0@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    I think you’re confusing anti-NATO sentiment with pro-putin sentiment

    There wouldn’t need to be pro-NATO shit if Russia didn’t invade an entire fucking country, what are they talking about

    They same the exact same shit with Syria, that Bashaar is the lesser evil despite gassing his own people and running concentration camps. Fuck them all, they’re no better than fascists.

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    Pretty braindead position to take when Yog is posting pro-Russia propaganda memes straight to the front page of memes.ml on the regular.

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    3 months ago

    Classic sealion. No matter how much evidence you provide to one of them, they’ll find any reason to invalidate or ignore it and continue prodding.

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    I’ve literally seen "but Ukraine has Nazis” before.

    Edit. Thanks everyone. I don’t need an explanation. I’m just saying that if I cared to, I could pull those receipts.

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      It probably is true. I’m sure there is at least on Nazi in the entirety of Ukraine.

      Does that justify invasion? No, not really

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        If you can identify them, it justifies flying over there to punch them in the face. I’m sure Indiana Jones can find some ancient relic there to justify the trip.

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      Can’t help but feel the creation of a hard right organisation is a natural out come of an invasion of your territory

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      You look at any nation’s army and you see a bunch of nationalist assholes there, no exceptions. Some of those are literally neo-nazis. Azov is has pretty high concentration of those, it was a non-government lead army comprised of uktra-nationalists and for sure was problematic as hell.

      Ukraine took over Azov when the war escalated in 2022, and they’re using Azov as any other battalions in the defence of their country because they need men and these men are willing to give their lives to defend the country, and that’s what Ukraine needs right now - without it there would be no Ukraine anymore.

      Of course it’s easy to yell at Nazi from the safety of your home thousands of kilometres from the country being invaded by an army lead by a shitbag in a bunker, but Ukraine needs every single one of these men to prevent being absorbed into another oblast in the Ruzzian empire. Sometimes bad people end up doing good things

      That being said, every Nazi deserves to be fucked in the face with a brick

      Sorry for drunk rambling

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        second-off Azov Brigade have confirmed neo-Nazis in their ranks

        That goes for pretty much every single military in the world unfortunately. It’s not really worth singling them out when there are Russians running around with black sun symbols and SS-Skulls at the same time.

        Besides, Ukraine has done a huge amount of work to clear up these elements and pretty much none of the founding members of Azov remain in active service. The entire brigade has been almost fully replaced after Mariupol.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        So does Russia though. So does Israel and I’m pretty sure Hamas also has a ton of hardcore reactionaries. I never understood what that argument is meant to achieve except spread disinfo

            • fxomt's on dbzer0@lemm.ee
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              That’s what the meme was saying, i agree.

              Despite Hamas and Azov being in similar situations (PS: Fuck them both but not all of resistance in those countries are just them) tankies are pretty suspicious in only supporting one. It’s almost as if they’re biased and not being true with their intentions.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The last director of the Russian space agency was recorded speaking at a neo-nazi gathering. And the guy who gave the Wagner group its name had a tattoo of the nazi eagle and the SS logo on each of his shoulders. I mean, if you wanna condemn an entire country for having a few nazis, the list of Russian nazis is a lot longer. We’ll be here for hours.

    • lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today
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      Not a good example. “Defending X” is a much stronger requirement than just “pointing out that a specific argument against X is invalid”; the latter is done by everyone who likes seeing good arguments rather than bad arguments, and isn’t a sign of liking X.

      (The most pro-russian (as in, supporting the russian-ukraine war) stuff I’ve seen was various memes from lemmy.ml and lemmygrad that ended up in popular. I’m having trouble finding a better example than that; in particular, because Lemmy’s search is bad and doesn’t seem to allow for searching recent comments from a specific instance, and also refuses to give me more than a few pages of results.)

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    I used to say it jokingly, but holy shit I really miss the 90s and early 2000s before everything was full of nazis, bots and ads.

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        Yes, but not out in the open, not on every site I visit, not in the literal advertisements being forced on people, not by the president and his minions in broad daylight. No one can seriously pretend things are the same as they were back then.

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          They are the same. Nazis were killing people here in the US back then too, it was just covered up because it was embarrassing for the local politicians. Sure, it was more comfortable for white people to pretend there was nothing wrong, but that didn’t mean people of color weren’t dying.

          What you’re saying is you just want to go back to being comfortable. That’s your privilege, you used to be able to pretend it wasn’t happening. Some of us never had that option.

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            So tell me what race, gender and religion I am since you know me so well.

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              You know it’s not to hard to sic an algorithm on your comment history, right? You’re a white male millennial, probably in your thirties. You’re American, and identify as a democrat. You’re an atheist. You struggle with neurodivergence yourself, but you also like to make jokes at the expense of people with mental illness. You’re a PC gamer, but it’s likely you don’t have a very expensive rig because you’re lower class and probably make less than $35,000 a year. You’re most likely living in the Midwest.

              I could keep going, and probably give you your email, maybe an address, but frankly I don’t want to get banned for doxing you. And honestly, I don’t care who you are anyway.

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                No keep going.

                I will say that it’s pretty funny I got almost the exact same kind of output about your account except it said you have an interest in global econ and manufacturing and that, and I quote because it’s hysterical, “their dismissive attitude towards alternative viewpoints could suggest a lack of openness to differing perspectives.”

    • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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      I fucking hate them both… I voted for Harris because she’s not literally parroting every word, motion and action from Adolf Hitler.