See the post on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/provisionalidea.bsky.social/post/3lhujtm2qkc2i
According to many comments, the US government DOES use SQL, and Musk is not understanding much what’s going on.
“Our databases only store in RAM because I AM THE ELECTRICITY BATTERY MASTER”
I’m sure he has an alternative, like tattooing it on the forearms of ‘undesirables’.
Too expensive. Just put this sticker of a lolipop on your shirt.
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That’s weird, I thought I used SQL databases from government agencies regularly. Guess I was mistaken.
Nope, just retarded.
If you and Elon disagree about something, just assume he’s wrong about it. If you both agree on something, THEN you might be mistaken.
This guy Elons
Indeed. I’m starting to think I can’t trust what that Musk guy says.
Hey you’re looking for a new truck aren’t ya? Well do we have a deal for you!
If it’s tech he doesn’t know shit about it, I learned that years ago during the Twitter acquisition days
He sounds like a CEO who “knows enough to fuck shit up, not enough to know how to fix it, but thinks they do” AKA the worst executive known to IT
Remember when he said he knows more about engineering than anyone else on the planet?
How about the submarine he was going to build to save kids in a cave that obviously would have drowned long before he could have even really started work? But it’s okay, he could just accuse the guy who actually saved their lives of being a pedo
And if it isn’t tech he knows even less about it.
this really needs more circulation because too goddamn many people still believe his PR
Thank you. I was trying to find this earlier today.
i agree but would like to add that it’s generally good practice to stay away from rockets
Even red ones?
ESPECIALLY red ones.
They go faster.
Yeah. If you ever fly a rocket, you want to fly low and slow to be safe.
I hope the screenshot dude is also going to stop this unquestioning belief in the things people say or claim without evidence.
Those first two paragraphs look like a tendency to prefer hero-worship to critical thought; that seems to be a fairly widespread problem in humans from long before this latest batch of demagogues.
There’s also a hint of “I’m not an ‘expert’ in it so I can’t (be bothered) to understand anything about it” also a very depressingly common attitude.
We all have to rely on somebody to be an expert in fields outside our own. Years ago, if Elon said “Falcon 9 launch yesterday failed due to xyz”, I assumed he had the actual experts giving him notes. The Xhitter debacle showed how much he doesn’t listen to those people.
I just dont get why you have to assume that though?
Maybe I’m a pessimist, but I’ve met and worked with enough humans that I think the best assumtion is that they’re all full of shit until they prove otherwise.
It’s fine to rely on experts for some things, but if those experts aren’t subject to independent scrutiny or directly independent of the claim or sunjecy under test, or can’t give clear testable /replicable evidence, I’d just not put much weight on their testimony as a source of evidence.
I don’t believe you
Cool! I wish there were, and hope there will be, more like you.
It’s kind of funny, but we all do this to some extent. I used to think most people on Reddit were super smart. If someone says stuff with authority, then it’s easy to believe what they’re saying and assume they know what they’re talking about.
But then every once in a while, I’d come across a topic that I know deeply about - and the comment would just be blatantly wrong, but still have tons of up votes. It really made me start second guessing all the other comments I had read and thought were smart, but it’s an easy trap to fall into.
I guess what I’m really saying, is that you all are a bunch of morons, probably.
Confirmed, am moron.
You say that with confidence so I’m going to trust you on that 100%.
That’s phrased brilliantly, and capturey my own perception of Musk
The US government basically ONLY uses SQL…
Is retard a bait/dog whistle word?
Used by the guy who did two Nazi salutes at the inauguration? It absolutely is
When Elon was in his early teens, that word was a common pejorative.
If you look at Elon and interpret his behavior as if he was 13, it all makes a lot more sense.
So his emotional growth was literally, uh… well… you know…
Felon Musk is such a fucking moron lol
Maybe it’s all just one big .xlsm file?
Using pivot tables.
Nah, that’s too fancy. It’s all held together by some arcane Visual Basic macro someone wrote 25 years ago right before going to retirement and no one has dared to touch it ever since.
Qbasic, if that.
Biden is a blue dog and never cared about infrastructure. Trump cant spell the word. Obama did, but for overpriced drones and oil. Bush only did for oil and deregulated to make things worse. Clinton cut thing Bush Sr cut things. Reagan fucked everything up with “trickle down”
Meaning the last president that did major infrastructure spending is at best Carter, Ford or Nixon.
I laughed but really I know when the last good database and systems people left government to be replaced by contractors. It was Bush’s first term. Since then everything has been just putting a new front end on the back end government programmers created in the 1990’s.
Glad you laughed, wasnt entirely serious
with vlookups across multiple sheets to get around row limitations, that’s just common sense in MyExcelDB
Holy mother of visual basic
*visual basic for applications
being corrected by a nsfw acc was not on my lemmy bingo list lol
I like boobs and I came in contact with way too many horrible languages ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh god, like Hungarian?
I could see it all being a big vendor specific XML file with XSLT for the application layer
Also that’s not how deduplication works.
He means/thinks that SSN is not unique (which is not a problem, just different design).
Of course he’s wrong about lots of stuff, just the nerd in me could not not explain it.
I imagine he’s looking at a payments table where there is a non-unique key to relate a citizen to each payment.
It’s going to be so expensive to fix all the damage this government is doing when America next has sensible government
So many skills lost, so many systems broken
Elon starting to comment on technical matters was the moment I learned he was actually completely beyond incompetent, since I have some actual expertise on the subject. Right around the time he bought Twitter and commented publicly on its architecture.
This is further evidence to that point
He’s the Steven Segal of futurism
Now i Really want to see The Dipshit run.
His response to the 2018 Thai Cave rescue is what made me realize how big of a shit stain on society he is.
Seemingly every interaction this man has with a normal person is him finding newer and more interesting ways of declaring himself an absolute moron.
How the fuck is he the de facto president of the USA?
Well, the president represents the people…
A lot of people decided not to vote this time. A lot of other people belived stupid shit their lighted rectangle told them.
Maybe Musk needs to learn about data normalization and natural keys
This dude called self driving a solved problem a decade ago too.
I’m curious what the actual data looks like.
I’m sure it will be available for purchase shortly.
SQL is not web-scale
Time to watch this gem again: https://youtu.be/b2F-DItXtZs
I cannot wait to cut off the testicles of a 3.000lb raging bull as it tries to kick my head in.
NoSQL is web-scale.
Elon is basically what a dumb kid thinks smart people sound like
Replace “dumb kid” with half dozen of my boomer relatives, and you’re spot-on.
and the dumb kids, unfortunately. I did a spot with some non-US teenagers, in a class recently. The topic was “name a person you admire and why”. Guess whose filthy name came up…
Jesus Fucking Christ !!!
What does Elmo think the government use ? MongoDB, because its Web Scale [0]?
They probably do use lots of NoSQL DBs too, which perform better for non relational “data lake” style architectures where you just wanna dump mountains of data as fast as possible into storage, to be perused later.
When you have cases where you have very very high volume of data in, but very low need to query it (but some potential need, just very low), nosql DBs excel
Stuff like census data where you just gotta legally store it for historical reasons, and very rarely some person will wanna query it for a study or something.
Keep in mind when I talk about low need to query, the opposite high need us on the scale of like, "this db gets queried multiple times per minute’
Stuff like… logins to a website, data that gets queried many times per minute or even second, then sometimes nosql DBs fall off.
Depends what is queried.
Super basic “lookup by ID” Stuff that operates as just a big ole KeyValuePair mapping ID -> Value? And thats all you gotta query?
NoSql is still the right tool for the job.
The moment any kind of
JOIN
enters the discussion though, chances are you actually wanna use sql nowJust so you know census data is very heavily queried. Everything from civil engineering to economics wants to look at that dataset every day.
Like I said, in the scale compared to actual high frequency data though, that’s still be infrequent.
High frequency DBs are on the scale of many queried per second
Even with tonnes of data scientists and engineers querying the data, that’s still in the scale of queries per minute, which is low frequency in the data world.
I wouldn’t put it past them to experience numbers in the per second realm, especially as new data posts and everyone is rushing to grab it.
I wouldn’t even consider “per minute” frequently queried. Per millisecond for stock market shit
So you’re saying Relational DataBase Management Systems do really well as soon as Relations are involved?
What’s funny is that Relational Databases in fact sucks when somewhat complex Relations are involved. Moment you step out the of the realm of Tabular data you’ll have very miserable time. Like good luck modeling and querying simple nested product catalog.
Graph databases are better choice for truly relational data
And Structured Query Language is a handy language for querying structured data?
To nitpick, Census data is heavily queried. They use Oracle now, I believe.
Ah, a classic watch. :-)
Elon probably thinks that SQL is MS SQL Sever, MySQL, or some such.
Elon probably thinks
Not really sure he does, I think he’s clearly paying others to do that for him
He’s clearly not paying enough then
My bad, I forgot he doesn’t have time to think.
Too busy being one of the best players at Path of Exile 2. Despite that he doesn’t identify the valuable loot. Or how to use the map. Or how levels work. But he’s top 50! All very believable.