• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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    2 months ago

    This was two years ago

    So it doesn’t count anymore, two years is way too long from today.

    doesn’t seem like it’s actually gonna happen on any timeframe, one year from now, two years from now, ten years from now

    So it’s certainly assured what will happen ten years from now, based on what’s happening today.

    Got it. Makes perfect sense, I’m following so far.

    You can feel free to link me sources if you disagree with me saying this.

    You want me to give you a citation for what’s going to happen ten years from now? Actually, no. You’re telling me what’s going to happen ten years from now, and demanding a citation otherwise, if I disagree.

    Who is saying these terms are unacceptable Zelensky?

    Zelensky has said he wouldn’t give up land before. That was a little while ago, and things can change. I doubt he would want to say anything about the peace agreement before it’s negotiated. He has offered to swap land, Kursk for the occupied Ukrainian territories.

    Mostly, what I mean by saying that is that I think it’s unacceptable, for reasons pretty similar to the posted meme. I think that it’s likely that the offer on the table for Ukraine is “accept Russia’s terms, or no more aid” and they’ll have to make a nasty choice between those alternatives. How they feel or what they will do, I don’t know. But I’m fairly well convinced that those are the options they’ll be choosing between, and that Harris wouldn’t have done that. Can you give me a citation otherwise?

    if the deal is if one side will stop the other side if the other side breaks the deal

    Russia agrees not to invade, then invades, and you put the onus on the West? I already pointed out that the “one side will stop the other side” is nowhere in the memorandum. I don’t know why you are persistently pretending it is, or ignoring me pointing out that it isn’t.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum#Content