Do you want Marines patrolling our streets? While I agree with the sentiment, there is a non zero chance that this would qualify Canada into the oil for freedom kinetic négociation program. Our best option is to wait for the inevitable usa civil war to come and hope it doesn’t spill too much north.
While I agree with the sentiment, there is a non zero chance that this would qualify Canada into the oil for freedom kinetic négociation program.
No way in hell that happens. Not because of Trump’s geopolitical acumen, mind you, but because it’d start a civil war, split the country in half and turn America into a global pariah state. And either way America does not have what it takes to occupy Canada. See: Afghanistan.
Why do you think the only two options here are your narrow ideas or nothing at all?
To be clear: the approach you’ve outlined is incompatible with anti-fascism. Therefore you can’t claim that moral high horse. Your approach is fundamentally flawed in that it’s still dogmatically invested in capitalistic top-down power consolidation.
Please, dear god. Get off the internet and sign up to help your local mutual aid organizations. We can do so so so much more to combat fascism by reminding each other of our collective strength, compassion, and humanity. That really is the antidote to fascism, and we all need to be working toward that more than anything our federal government can do via tarrifs or trade bans.
That’s all well and good until the electorate revolts by putting the CPC in charge next cycle. No thank you, if only for the fact it’s politically incompatible with anti-fascism. You can’t make such broad moves and expect there won’t be backlash. Canadians are NOT immune to the same thing happening up here that’s happening south of the border.
These are based on showing people there is a better way, and in particular showing average people that the left is working for them.
And then there are ways that directly embolden fascism by senselessly cratering the lives of everyday people thereby driving the masses directly into the arms of the far right.
You can’t just disentangle overnight, unfortunately. And I’m sorry but if you don’t think backlash is something that can/should be mitigated by an effective strategy then you haven’t been paying attention.
A far more effective antidote to fascism is mutual aid.
What are you even talking about? Engagement in local politics and mutual aid is at historic lows, in large part due to the influence of US central social media corporations.
As nice as that sounds, it’s not realistic. Instead, we need to sign tons of trade pacts with other countries. Divert our resources to allies that won’t turn on us, even if we need to subsidize some of it in the short term.
Rather than denying the US our resources and markets, it’s far better and more concrete to sell what we have to someone else. The US is dependent on our resources to run their economy, but there’s plenty of countries that want them as well. If we can refine our base resources and sell them as valued added products, even better.
I don’t get whey we sell the US crude when we can refine it all ourselves. Alberta should really be asking why they only have oil workers and not any refiners. Nunavut should be asking why they sell raw diamonds instead of cutting them themselves. We already make and sell high quality steel, aluminum, and uranium. Why not do the same for all the other natural resources we sell? And then sell them to Europe or East Asia instead of the US?
Europe’s losing access to many of their raw material producers as well as natural gas. Southeast Asia is both short on energy as well as being the fastest growing new producer and markets. And East Asia will always need reliable energy and potash. And then all this applies to India as well, even if there’s some problems with their current government.
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Take a page from China.
Inject a layer of government ownership preventing foreign companies from actually owning any part of Canada.
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Do you want Marines patrolling our streets? While I agree with the sentiment, there is a non zero chance that this would qualify Canada into the oil for freedom kinetic négociation program. Our best option is to wait for the inevitable usa civil war to come and hope it doesn’t spill too much north.
No way in hell that happens. Not because of Trump’s geopolitical acumen, mind you, but because it’d start a civil war, split the country in half and turn America into a global pariah state. And either way America does not have what it takes to occupy Canada. See: Afghanistan.
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Why do you think the only two options here are your narrow ideas or nothing at all?
To be clear: the approach you’ve outlined is incompatible with anti-fascism. Therefore you can’t claim that moral high horse. Your approach is fundamentally flawed in that it’s still dogmatically invested in capitalistic top-down power consolidation.
Please, dear god. Get off the internet and sign up to help your local mutual aid organizations. We can do so so so much more to combat fascism by reminding each other of our collective strength, compassion, and humanity. That really is the antidote to fascism, and we all need to be working toward that more than anything our federal government can do via tarrifs or trade bans.
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Me too, we just differ on how quickly that can happen without driving average people into the arms of fascists.
30% of our population would be glad to see it, and 30% is all it took in the US this past election.
As much as I hate Americans, we won’t be able to do that anytime soon
Joining the EU and not letting conservatives anywhere near any level of government is our best action right now
That’s all well and good until the electorate revolts by putting the CPC in charge next cycle. No thank you, if only for the fact it’s politically incompatible with anti-fascism. You can’t make such broad moves and expect there won’t be backlash. Canadians are NOT immune to the same thing happening up here that’s happening south of the border.
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There are effective ways to fight fascism.
These are based on showing people there is a better way, and in particular showing average people that the left is working for them.
And then there are ways that directly embolden fascism by senselessly cratering the lives of everyday people thereby driving the masses directly into the arms of the far right.
You can’t just disentangle overnight, unfortunately. And I’m sorry but if you don’t think backlash is something that can/should be mitigated by an effective strategy then you haven’t been paying attention.
A far more effective antidote to fascism is mutual aid.
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What are you even talking about? Engagement in local politics and mutual aid is at historic lows, in large part due to the influence of US central social media corporations.
As nice as that sounds, it’s not realistic. Instead, we need to sign tons of trade pacts with other countries. Divert our resources to allies that won’t turn on us, even if we need to subsidize some of it in the short term.
Rather than denying the US our resources and markets, it’s far better and more concrete to sell what we have to someone else. The US is dependent on our resources to run their economy, but there’s plenty of countries that want them as well. If we can refine our base resources and sell them as valued added products, even better.
I don’t get whey we sell the US crude when we can refine it all ourselves. Alberta should really be asking why they only have oil workers and not any refiners. Nunavut should be asking why they sell raw diamonds instead of cutting them themselves. We already make and sell high quality steel, aluminum, and uranium. Why not do the same for all the other natural resources we sell? And then sell them to Europe or East Asia instead of the US?
Europe’s losing access to many of their raw material producers as well as natural gas. Southeast Asia is both short on energy as well as being the fastest growing new producer and markets. And East Asia will always need reliable energy and potash. And then all this applies to India as well, even if there’s some problems with their current government.
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