Summary
During a heated Oval Office meeting, Trump berated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
Trump repeatedly cut Zelenskiy off, accused him of lacking gratitude, and defended Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also ranted about past U.S. elections and personal grievances.
Following the meeting, Trump posted on Truth Social, claiming Zelenskiy “is not ready for peace.”
The U.S. and Russia recently held talks without Ukraine, raising concerns over sidelining Kyiv in negotiations.
Two entertainers making a spectacle. A cynic might think it was staged.
Except the one who was actually a successful comedian and actor was not the one trying to make a spectacle
A cynic might. Someone who actually thinks things through might not.
And… Why would they stage that? Trump wanted to get a peace deal so he could claim it as a win of his anti-war presidency. Zelensky wanted to secure further support. Both didn’t get what they wanted.
Trump wants whatever Putin tells him. And right now Putin says no deal, and that he’ll sell minerals to the US from Russian occupied Ukraine. Handing Ukraine over to Russia was always Trump’s plan, and if he could extort precious resources from Ukraine before then even better.
Hitler on meth ranting at Mussolini vibes.
Maga:
meh. This is fine.
edit - no, they are celebrating it. You know where to look. I wonder how bad it will get before that place finally realizes he’s not just hurting the people they want him to hurt.
The republican at my work says Zelensky will start WW3, will not be elected next election cycle, doesn’t want peace, is asking way too much, didn’t even thank Trump for the meeting.
Fuck the USA! There, I said it!
Fuck the whole country, fuck the people that voted for that fucking bully and fuck the people that didn’t vote for him but let this happen!
Fuck you all!!
Hit them where it hurts and boycott USA! Delete all Meta accounts, boycott Amazon, stop watching american shows, install Linux. Every little thing helps!
Yes, boycott us, if the nations won’t try to sanction us in the US, the people can with their wallets. (I’m also trying to shift my spending habits from within, it’s tough)
Hey man. I didn’t vote for the guy ever. I’m saddened multiple times per day by what is happening. Go fuck yourself if you think everybody here is okay with what’s going on here.
Very few people think everyone on your side of the pond is okay with your political shitshow.
It’s disheartening to see around a third of your voters being cunts, but then every country has their regressive arseholes, but it’s downright frustrating to see another chunk of your voting populace being okay enough with it to not bother voting against it.
So, by majority, the Americans are a clownshow. A small #NotAllVoters contingent doesn’t really change that - coupled with a modern history of American exceptionalism (and i say that with a straight face even with the British track record) then you can see why you’re getting dunked on.
The American exceptionalism has been a huge burr in my blanket for forever, and I live here.
We get it (and deserve it), but your preaching to the choir. The US residents of Lemmy are usually either socially active net-izens who are very aware of, and trying to act against of the shitshow unfolding in what ways they can, or fringe groups (see the tankie instances) who have been thrown off of enough mainstream platforms that they had to go make their own.
Once todays vent session is done, we should focus on keeping constructive posts visible and discussed. (Stuff individuals or small groups can do to help our firends on the other side of the pond and ideas to try and course correct shit stateside)
Im just trying to not be too pesimistic…
Fuck off and your shit bully country. Fucking third world country in a Gucci belt, idiocracy come to life dumpster fire.
Disrespectfully, fuck off. There are A LOT of folks who voted against him. You can be angry at the MAGAts that voted for him, or the imbeciles who didn’t vote, but there are quite a few of us who never supported him and are doing anything we can think of to remove him.
I hope with time we can prove to you that there’s Americans here fighting against this. I know it doesn’t look great now, and don’t blame you for hating us and our country. As an American, I also hate us and our country.
What a fucking troglodyte. Immagine being the leader of another country and having your country invaded and some feckless moron you went to for help (because the guy that invaded you is their fuckin’ enemy) and he tells you that you should be “happy” to give away the majority of your countries natural resources for help from them.
It’s just beyond mentally retarded. There’s not a spec of intelligence to be seen–and MAGA is going to eat this giant turd like “lol daddy Trump doesn’t take any shit!!!” like are you fucking kidding me?
He’s being a bully. It’s like if your kid was getting his ass beat every day at school and he asked another kid for help and the kid was like “Yeah, sure. But you have to give me your lunch money every single day for the rest of your life” and when your kid is like “wtf” the kid he went to for help was like “FINE, GET YOUR ASS KICKED EVERY DAY, SEE IF I FUCKING CARE!” and people praised that behavior…
He’s so clearly a Russian agent.
Just when you thought you couldn’t get any more embarrassed being an American.
This is a great window into how Trump, Vance and MAGA do business.
Bully. Yell. Lie. Threaten.
And the scariest part is they broadcast it all live and commented that it would make “great television”. These are hateful people that have absolutely no shame. They’re proud they bullied, threatened, yelled at, and lied to an ally in service of a traditional enemy.
If you thought you couldn’t be more embarrassed, you must’ve not looked at the calendar. We’re only two months into this shit.
Correction: A month and 9 days.
fixed
I know Europeans hate us Americans and I understand why. I’ve never supported Trump and have fought with my dollar, vote, and time, but I am just too ashamed to show my face in the EU any time soon.
Canadians too.
The White House posted an edited video, so what we all saw and heard must not be real. They also just pulled infrastructure repair funding from Ukraine, and took Russia off of the cybersecurity threat list under the radar.
Every member of Congress that stands behind this is complicit as well.
Traitors. Every single republican voter is traitor filth. And should be treated as such.
Trump is a buffoon.
He is far worse than that.
Imagine if the future of your country and the lives of millions of people who live there all hinged on you having to fly half way around the world and be filmed trying to be polite to two gibbering morons, and not even in your first language.
Mad respect to Zelenskyy for keeping it together as well as he did TBH.
Two guys who can’t keep a single speech or interview civil calling Zelensky disrespectful. LAWL
Standard abuser behavior. Deny, gaslight and project.
