• Broken@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Neither did he last administration and neither will the next. They want us polarized and fighting each other so we don’t fight them.

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      2 months ago

      Exactly. And “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists. We’re on the same side, if people could set aside differences and focus on similarities, that would be great.

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        2 months ago

        “Division” is good when one side is fucking Nazis who are literally Sieg Hiel saluting each other. You’re not supposed to get along with or cooperate with Nazis. Stop with this bullshit false equivalence. At this point it’s downright dangerous.

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          2 months ago

          I am talking about citizens. What if we had this attitude about Russia during WW2 and Afghanistan? Please close your eyes and try to imagine that.

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            2 months ago

            Nothing you’re saying makes sense actually. What are you talking about?

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              2 months ago

              Historical facts. Both those wars would have gone very differently if not for working with people with whom we had ideological differences.

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                2 months ago

                You said:

                “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists

                and then cited an example where we cooperated with communists (leftists) to defeat Nazis (right-wing fascists). Seems to me that we should always cooperate with leftists and never cooperate with Nazis. Again, what is your point?

                My point is that being saying,

                “leftists” are as hell- bent on division as rightists

                You are watering down history and making a dangerous false equivalence. We are dealing with Nazis right now, and it seems to me that your point is that we should “settle our differences” and try to work with them. If that is your point of view (I’m hoping it’s not), that is really short-sighted. Nazi ideology does not involve compromise. It involves systematically killing anyone who does not look/think/act like you.

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                2 months ago

                Are you saying the US-Afghan war could’ve been successful? Or do you think it was successful, and somehow a result of working with ideological differences?