• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    He doesn’t work for America or Russia, he works for himself and the billionaire class.

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        2 months ago

        He’s serving the American bourgeoisie moreso than Russia.

        Which, to be clear, is worse than if he was serving Russia. The American bourgeoisie are the direct enemy to the American people, they suppress our wages (Putin doesn’t), they shift the tax burden onto us (Putin doesn’t), they bust our unions (Putin doesn’t), etc. That’s not to say that Putin is in any way a friend to everyday Americans, but he is a more distant and removed enemy compared to our direct, primary enemy, the rich of our own country. I don’t know why there’s this need to treat Trump as secretly in league with an external entity, as if being what he actually is wasn’t the worst thing he could possibly be.

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              2 months ago

              It would be helpful to have it confirmed, but it’s highly unlikely. The KGB is generally hush-hush, so we’re going to have to decide without explicit evidence, but Occam’s razor is good enough for me.

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                2 months ago

                Occam’s razor says that he’s a billionaire acting in his own self interest. Adding hidden unconfirmed assumptions that are unnecessary to explain his behavior is literally the exact thing that Occam’s razor says not to do.

          • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            Yes? I fucking hate Trump but I want verified shit to tag on him for his actual actions.

            If we just allow anything to stick to a figure/political group no matter how false it is, it just gives them ammo. “Why would you believe I did X? They said I did Y and Z and no proof was there for any of it.”

            Like imagine if someone said something that makes sense about Putin but wasn’t backed by anything in reality. Putin could now use that as a tool for propaganda/deflection. Same for any other figure in politics.

            Genuinely, I want sources for all claims. Even if it questions my personal world views. Sometimes I’m just genuinely wrong about something and I like being corrected in a informative way.

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        2 months ago

        It all comes down to the war between the Martians and the lizard people.