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Summary
Donald Trump is poised to impose massive import tariffs on goods from Canada, Mexico, and China, effectively raising taxes on U.S. households by an estimated $3,000 annually.
Unlike past tax increases that targeted the wealthy, these tariffs disproportionately impact low- and middle-income workers.
While Trump claims the measures address immigration and fentanyl concerns, experts argue they serve as a revenue source to offset tax cuts for the rich.
Critics contend that Trump’s tariffs lack a clear industrial strategy and primarily burden American consumers.
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I don’t want to give up too many secrets, but…
…the ultimate way to own Libs is to destroy the economy and raise taxes on everyone that voted for you. Ssshhhhhhh…don’t tell anyone, them Libs’ll be so pissed. ;)
I’m not paying taxes for fucking musk to destroy the country.
This went into effect today.
Trump Set to Whack US Working Class With Historic $2,000 Tax Hike
They updated the article FYI.
I wouldn’t be surprised if these tax hikes are imposed, then Musk/Trump issue checks with their faces that give ‘free money’ to everyone in an attempt to curry favor.
If that happens, I will turn that crap into Euros.
Calling it a “tax increase” when it’s not is kind of infuriating because it just muddies the conversation. Comparing it to a tax increase is fine but saying it’s “effectively” one is worse than useless - it either confuses people, gives them the wrong idea, or gives them an easy out to say it’s bullshit.
I hate when my side does stuff like this.
A tariff is a sales tax, pure and simple. Sales taxes hit lower income people harder than the rich because they have to put a higher percentage of their income into it.
I agree, but framing it like this just gives the other side an opportunity to call bullshit.
Why give them the ammo?
Why craft your message with the primary goal of not angering a bunch of snowflakes who are going to attack you literally no matter what you say. We’re up against people that think wearing a tan suit is a newsworthy scandal and electing a rapist is fine. Or do you need me to say “found civilly liable for sexual assault but never criminally convicted of rape”?
Because any rational person is going to immediately assume you’re talking about directly raising taxes, not indirectly like this.
Trying to conflate the two makes it appear as though you’re trying to trick your audience. It’s not a good look and we can be better than that.
You’re saying a tariff doesn’t count as a tax because it gets hidden in the final price of goods?
Maybe corporate America will tack on a “tariff fee” like those bs restaurant service fees to tell consumers it’s not their fault.
I’m saying people are going to look for this tax increase they heard about and not find it on their paycheck.
Feel free to tell me the downside of being accurate here.
It would be accurate to call a tariff what it is: a tax. Maybe the downside is ostrich-heads won’t be able to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it’s not a tax.
People are very used to paying taxes that don’t show up on their pay statement. Things like sales tax, property tax.
Tarrifs are a tax, they are going up, and it’s a sales tax which are commonly regressive (hit lower income families more).
“Whack”? Seriously? Jfc.
I kept saying this, and I’m glad others are realizing it.
He steamrolled tariffs because it’s a tax on the working class. He will never raise taxes for the ruling class.
Is taxing his own corporation to generate revenue also a tax on his citizens?
Corporate welfare must end. Welfare for billionaires must also end. That’s your tax dollars at work.
Here’s an article showing that individuals, not just corporations, get abundant welfare in the hundreds of millions.
Is this supposed to make sense? Moron.
Oh wow. One might just think you’re a taint-licking moron, and they’d be right.
Hey man, there’s no need to lump the taint lickers in with this guy.
No need to be hostile, I just hear many people pushing for taxing corporations, and it popped into my head. Why is taxing foreign companies evil but taxing domestic companies good, or are all taxes passed to consumers in the end?
I think you’re confusing Trump’s ill-informed theory with actually theory and practice.
If foreign goods are taxed, those companies will not simply absorb the hit to their profits. They will instead increase their prices, which hurts the consumer.
You may be thinking, “then won’t consumers buy other products?” If so, you need to think a step further. Are there other products that are just as cheap? Will other companies simply raise their prices to match and take advantage of the extra profit? Are there even locally made alternatives to the product, and, if so, are they cheaper than even the tariff price?
In practice, tariffs are only effective if there are local competitors within the same price bracket, and your populace can absorb the difference in price without much pain.
https://www.usimportdata.com/blogs/top-10-us-Imports-data-by-country-product-hs-code-database Electronics, vehicles, fuels, medicines, and plastics are among our top imports. Home built vehicles are usually expensive. For example, when you think cheap, you think of a Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic something. We know fuel is important. Medicines are not an optional cost. Plastics are part of everything. Our economy relies a lot on imports. The US shifted away from manufacturing and towards a service economy a long time ago. We don’t have a many home-built goods as we used to.
Tariffs will hurt the average citizen by corporations increasing their prices to absorb the profit losses imposed by the tariffs. There are often no comparable local alternatives, and many of these goods are not optional. Americans will pay this price. In effect, this makes it a tax on normal citizens
Personally, I like the idea of restoring local manufacturing, and I think tariffs can play a role in this… but to do so without harming citizens requires subsidizing local industry to provide cheaper homemade alternatives along with a more gradual adjustment. We would also need to reduce the cost of living in order to make lower wages livable such that the labor cost of local manufacturing is lower. But we all know that’s not happening - we desperately need wages to go up right now to make the cost of living bearable. Slapping double-digit tariffs on goods suddenly is a great way to destabilize an economy. So uh… fuck Trump.
Remember, if you see someone stealing food, no you didn’t.
Well jokes on you, Republicans will have their tariffs paid for by China, Mexico, and Canada and even better they’re going to be getting a stimulus check for 8K thanks to DOGE.
That’s what Tik Toc tells them and what they know to be true.
If only this could have been seen coming … there were really just no warning signs … I’m tired.
Exactly, I wasn’t so much shocked as I was surprised Harris lost. I mean how can so many people be that dense as to vote for Trump?
“People keep acting like a trump win will be the end of democracy, but thats just hyperbole. He wont end democracy.”
-bad faith trolls
What gets me is that there were millions who couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump.
imho Biden/Harris shouldn’t have had to do anything whatever. People should have just shown up and said ‘no’ to anotehr Trump term.
Oh no no no. It’s of course someone else’s fault. Harris not good enough, blah blah blah. Definitely don’t blame people too lazy or uninterested to vote. That’s definitely not their fault and theyre definitely not complicit in everything going on.
Good thing most Americans can find an extra three grand in their couch cushions. /s
That’s not for them. Vance left a tip for the couch when he finished.
vance already checked
Hey that’s my line. Up vote.
Why did biden do this
Unpopular opinion but I’m not seeing many people put any blame on Biden for dropping out after the very first debate. The whole “too old” argument was extremely weak and, unfortunately, a large chunk of men in the United States will never vote for a woman. No matter how strong her stance is, what qualifications, or anything, they are staunchly against a woman in power.
It’s unfortunate but dropping out and nominating the VP that nobody really knew for doing anything during the 4 years of Biden wasn’t the best option, especially because people felt like they didn’t vote for her, and the aforementioned sexism that still exists. If they put Walz up, or even Beto, they would have been better options IMO.
Edit: Not seeing much discussion, just downvotes. If Lemmy is to be better than Reddit I recommend not downvoting only because you disagree.
Yeah, Biden could have done differently.
You know what would be better? If ~23% of the populous weren’t hateful ignorant cultists intent on installing christofascism to their own obvious detriment. To hell with bitching about what democrats do wrong (most things if we’re being honest). The blame lies with every republican that voted for mango Mussolini and we shouldn’t let them forget it.
My point is the people we’re constantly complaining about not voting, some didn’t vote because they didn’t vote for Harris to be the primary candidate. I am not one of them, but I think it’s a valid argument.
What I’m getting right now is knee jerk reactions to me saying Biden shouldn’t have dropped out instead of poopooing on the non voters like everyone else.
No way to know of course, but if polls are to be believed Biden would have done even worse. The debate performance was abysmal.
😂😂😂 Oh boy those MAGA idiots that were complaining about inflation and thought voting for Trump would help them. 🤣🤣🤣
How’s that going for you? 🤡🤡🤡They’d cut off their nose to spite their face. As long as people they don’t like are hurting, they’ll suffer as well. They’ll probably just find a way to blame Biden or Obama again.
critics are right
When did sabotaging your own economy become a hallmark of leadership? Asking for 300 million friends.
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He works for Putin. He’s been very successful at following his orders.
Congrats, USA!
