• Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      As long as russia keeps invading countries it has no business being in, it is extremely funny.

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      2 months ago

      It’s more of a Polish grudge funny though.

      Poland has a bit of a history with Russia too.

      • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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        2 months ago

        Surely Poland has been in an unlucky position between the empires of western Europe and the former Russian Empire, then again it has the same historical problems with Germany and I don’t see Polish people making racist jokes against the country that committed genocide in their territory.

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          2 months ago

          Maybe it’s the difference in Germany’s behavior and allyship towards Poland since the transgressions. Maybe Russia has not acted in a reconciliatory way towards Poland, maybe perhaps they’ve still behaved as an adversary, while Germany has taken accountability and joined a strategic alliance against the same Russian aggression that unapologetically continues to threaten Poland’s sovereignty

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          2 months ago

          I really don’t see what’s racist about Russia in that joke. If someone’s the butt of that joke it’s the Polish who’s willing to hurt themselve just to get back at Russia.

          And there are loads of Polish jokes about Germans.

          “An unlucky position” that’s putting it mildly.

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            2 months ago

            It’s not racist. People forget “Russian” is a nationality, not a race. Russia isn’t just populated by Slavs (much to the chagrin of Putin, I assume).

            • Shapillon@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Imho discriminating against a nationality is still racism. e.g. WW2 anti-japanese racism in the US.

              Russia has a very colonial attitude toward its non slavic citizens.

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                2 months ago

                Learn the difference between xenophobia and racism, please. The difference matters for proper discussions of different topics that pertain to discrimination in general and you are clearly confusing both of them in your weak attempt at accusing someone of behaviour they never displayed while they explained a joke that is rooted in historical context.

                More to the point, being against Russian dictatorship policies and historical atrocities is neither xenophobia nor is it racism.

                Everyone with a functioning frontal lobe knowns the Russian people are mostly helpless under a dictatorship that practices putting opposition (civil or political) in gulags, but one cannot just “lay down and take it” if the Russians come for them, just because you pity their situation. Criticizing dictatorships is of utmost importance, feelings be damned.

                • Shapillon@lemmy.world
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                  2 months ago

                  I agree that xenophobia and racism are different albeit related concepts. And I appreciate you reminding me of it. I’m not sure it makes a real difference for the conversation at hand.

                  After your first paragraph you’re just ranting about stuff I didn’t say or intend to imply.

                  You might have gotten your replies mixed because I’m the OP that shared the joke xD