Ok mr reviewer
Why don’t you tell us less about WV’s strategy a more about how the car is.
Does it spy on you? What kind of EULA will I need to agree to? Does it have car play/android auto? Does it have a 4G antenna to connect to VW servers even if I don’t enable the feature? Does it have an app? In what ways is VW going to try to get subscription money from me? How much does servicing cost? How much will a set of brake pads cost? Does VW support 3rd party repair shops? Does VW try to lockdown parts and forbid 3rd party repairs? Can it be remotely disabled? By me, by VW, by law enforcement? What happens when the battery needs replacing? What is the visibility like? If it horrible does it have obstable detection?
It’s a concept car; none of those things are actually known or knowable yet.
Fair
Ehhh I think it is. You should pretty much expect all of those things from any new car.
Consumers have spoken and they don’t care about privacy, reliability or repairability.
Concept cars are, by definition, not actually finished. Nobody will be able to buy the car that was being shown at the car show. The car that will be on sale in 2-3 years will be a thematically similar but fundamentally different creature.
Things like the onboard computer software/hardware/data sharing model won’t be defined yet. VW’s first party servicing costs or the price of replacement brake pads are not defined yet. It’ll be a job for a future car journalist to report on all those things once it’s actually defined.
Yes I understand what a concept car is. That changes nothing about my comment because it wasn’t about this specific car.
Things like the onboard computer software/hardware/data sharing model won’t be defined yet.
Yes it is. It will use the same software and data sharing model as every other VW. They’re not going to create entirely new ones just for this vehicle.
They’re not going to create entirely new ones just for this vehicle.
If you read the article (I know, controversial) you’ll see that that’s exactly what they’re suggesting they’re doing, yes.
Personally I wouldn’t hold my breath that it’ll be better, but it is going to be completely different to their current software stack.
The article doesn’t say anything about that.
VW says the production version of the ID. EVERY1 will be the company’s first vehicle to feature a new “powerful” software architecture that promises over-the-air updates. (Software has proven to be a bit of a pain for VW, with bugs and infrequent updates plaguing its ID family of vehicles for years.)
A lot of that isn’t known until nearly the last minute. Especially any of the hard metrics like mp/kwh, range, and especially any infotainment specifics.
Review what? It’s a concept. This is basically an ad. lol
Do you even need to ask? It’s in the name, ID every1!
The car he’s reviewing does not exist. He has some technical specs and a few renders to review.
Does it spy on you?
All new cars do and this one doesn’t even hide it, it’s called “id everyone”.
Funny how you’re mostly asking questions that no real human cares about when shopping for car…
Not to mention that VW lied to its customers before with the emissions scam…
Sounds like a model name for American police cars.
ID.EveryNW
If this comes to the US I will trade in my ID.4 for this. Small = sexy.
No, it isn’t.
It might be, if Volkswagen actually come through on their promises, in 20whatever.
There are already affordable EVs in Europe, as an example the Dacia Spring which has the same 230km autonomy and even lower price (18-19.000€ retail final price to consumer in Portugal which has high taxes on new vehicles).
Not as snazzy looking though, that’s what’s really important! /s
I looked up the Dacia Spring and it says, that it’s manufactured in China.
The manufacturing county of the world is manufacturing this car?
Dacia is a small Romanian brand with a single plant, so learning that some are rebranded Renaults from China is quite surprising.
Not as snazzy looking though
I doubt the production version will look that snazzy, I bet it’ll end up being much taller and look more like this:
This is why I’m more looking forward to the id.2, this actually looks like a good one for the price https://www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/id-2all
They won’t stop until even the pedals are touch buttons, are they?
I really don’t mind it, having driven a Tesla for a year it wasn’t bad at all.
Well I drive a heavily touch-screenified car, and I hate it. Have had the damn thing for almost a year but I still get nervous when I have to adjust the A/C.
155 mile range, well that’s a local commuter car, that’s it. The masses need things besides a local commuter car.
There’s also an ID.2all that’s more geared towards the masses: https://www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/id-2all
Personally this car would cover any drive I do except going to my parents and back (where I’d have to charge… at home here and at my parents there… so still fine really)
That’s 2 days of the longest work commute I’ve ever had. If the owner drives their daily then comes home and plugs it in I doubt it will ever be a problem. I’ve never heard range complaints from anyone that actually owns an ev either. There’s also a lot of people that have brought up road trips but none of the ones I know IRL have gone on road trips with their gas cars. I can’t see it as much more than people just don’t want to give up their cancer fumes.
It’s totally fine if it works for people, but I regularly drive long distance, and limited range means planning everything around that.
I have been looking at aptera, which might have longer range due to being aerodynamic and efficient. That’s what I want to see offered more for EVs. Problem is, it’s not a reality until it’s available for sale.
They should produce a Beetle EV.
Beetle EV
The Karmann Ghia EV conversions are stunning. Go see the most gorgeous thing VW ever made do 0-60 in 3 seconds.
So, as someone who drove three different classic beetles in the past, you know the KG is still my vote.
Launches in 2027 lmao
By that time Chinese evs will be flying or smt
The Volvo EX30 looks good as well but its super plastic and low quality inside. This car will probably follow the same pattern since they need make money on these ones too.
Is it just me or is that the worst name for a car in the history of the automobile?
Mazda’s Laputa translates to “the bitch” in Spanish.
There’s also Ford’s Probe…
But yeah ID.EVERY1 is a mediocre name.
Audi’s Etron translates to “turd” in French.
It’s not great but ‘bad car names’ is a whole genre, one that vw in particular excels at. These are the guys that brought you the “Tiguan”. Look it up, that’s not some fancy Spanish word or something, they literally just jammed the words “tiger” and “iguana” together and thought that it’d be the perfect name for their new mom-car.
To be fair Tiguan when phonetically translated into Chinese is 踢館， which means “going to someone else’s house and kicking the shit out of them” which is kind of fire.
I don’t get thesr automakers, who is this made for, don’t they see that tesla is killing it with their largr batteries. Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd, get some fake noises/feels when changing gears, get some smaller rims with more rubber and put the best brake system for an 18" wheel - which I think is the Brembo Sensify. Keep the physical buttons for important features for easy access, add a huge lcd panel for navigation and include carplay/android auto wirelessly - done deal. Make it cost as much as a full blown tesla model s and call it a day - you just stole 90% of the market. Add quick charging system and then you just gotta start building better charging stations.
Wait tesla is killing them and if it wasn’t for Musk going full adolf, he could have had the universal people’s car.
Well this car is for people who don’t want to spend the kind of money you need to spend on a Tesla. This one is supposed to be cheaper than the Model 3. Also the car you described exists. Porsche, Mercedes and Lotus are selling Model S competitors. The only reason why people drive Model S here in Europe is because Tesla had first mover advantage. Not because they are great cars. People buy them nowadays because a huge supply has hit the used market.
EVs don’t need fancy brakes because they use regenerative braking.
There’s that, but the problem is weight, with a 600mile range battery it’s gonna be a heavy car, with small 18 inch tires and more rubber to make the ride softer you can’t fit large piston brakes, so you need to make changes to improve the overall experience - think about a system that stops a small EV with the weight of a large SUV faster than a sports car. It would make for an amazing driving experience as EVs have great acceleration, just not the best weight balance, even though it’s mostly kept to the floor for a lower point of gravity. Not to mention you would be saving lives in the case of an accident.
I don’t get thesr automakers, who is this made for, don’t they see that tesla is killing it with their largr batteries.
It is made for people living in places where you maybe don’t need to drive 50 miles to go to the nearest mall… a car with 600 miles autonomy would be an overkill if you just need to drive about 10/20 miles a day while commuting.
Why can’t they put a 600miles battery
because they are useless for the target market.
If you don’t need to drive that long distance for everything, you don’t need big batteries with all the associate problems (weight, dimension and so on) that in the end don’t give you any real bonus if not the fact that maybe you can recharge it less often.The problem is that the battery degrades, so it’s a good idea to keep it charges to 60-80% so that it last way longer. If you have 600 miles of max range then that means you can easily have 360-480 miles for your driving. This is overkill as well right ? Wrong, if you live in a cold climate it practically gets halved so now you have 180-240 miles of driving.
Let’s say it’s summer though, now you want to drive 600 miles to your nearest ocean/sea and want to sightsee along the way. With a battery that big you might have to charge once and not even fully to have enough confidence driving to places where charging might be limited.
That’s why smaller batteries make sense only if you use the car for daily commuting, now you need to rent or buy a proper long range gas car or ev car - which now costs you quite a bit more or adds inconvenience. With tesla the problem is almost solved, but they have problematic political views and minimalistic interiors and a max battery of 402 miles. So yeah I think it’s worth it to make a car that costs 3x what VW are pushing, but is useful to everybody.
Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd
They do that for more expensive models.
The advantage of small batteries is higher efficiency and more range per charge hour in addition to a cheaper car.
I love the style. Finally they’re breaking their idiotic EV styling they came up with years ago. The ID.3 is just plain ugly.
The wheels still scream “I’m an EV!” though, with that design that incorporates loads of flat area, but I’m glad the body design is moving away.
I can see why manufacturers wanted “EV style” - EVs were the new hotness and so the makers want to strongly telegraph the electric nature of the car in the design language. And I’m sure certain consumers also liked driving around in something that looks like an alien spaceship.
But that design gets old real quick. Personally I don’t want crazy, I want classic shapes and a car that just looks like an ordinary car.
EV wheels done correctly actually lower the drag on the car improving efficiency. If they are done really well they also lighter with lower rolling resistance reducing that all important unsprung weight, which further helps efficiency.
Wheels even affect ICE cars, with larger heavier wheels impacting CO2 rating and economy for some models. The VW XL1 is an extreme example of this pushed as far as it could go at the time.
Any car company can draw pretty cars. lol
But starting anew with a bad concept is still a bad start.
I rather buy another Korean or Japanese car. As an European except for the electric r5 I have no interest in European car makers, much less from a company that should have disappeared after dieselgate.
I don’t mean to be an apologist for dieselgate - I’m not, it was scummy and I’m glad VW execs ended up in prison - but all carmakers had illegally high diesel emissions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal
VW weren’t even close to the worst for it, either. Fiat, Hyundai, and Renault-Nissan (they partner for engine designs a lot) were the worst, VW was bizarrely one of the least over the legal limit for most engine designs.
We just affiliate it with VW more because they were not only the first to be tested, but the VW executives admitted to using cheat devices, whereas most others denied it.
There are currently no plans to ship this (or the slightly larger longer range model) in the US. 🙄
