Donald Tusk told parliament on Friday that if Russia took control of parts of Ukraine, then Poland would find itself in a “difficult geographical situation.”
He said: “We are preparing large-scale military training for every adult man in Poland. Our goal is to finalize the plan by year’s end to ensure a well-trained reserve force ready for potential threats.
“If Ukraine loses the war, or if it accepts the terms of peace, armistice, or capitulation in such a way that weakens its sovereignty and makes it easier for Putin to gain control over Ukraine, then without a doubt—and we will all agree on this—Poland will find itself in a much more difficult geopolitical situation.”
Talking to reporters, Tusk later clarified that he was not announcing a resumption of basic military service.
“If I were proposing a return to basic military service, I would say so. We have several models. One of the most appreciated ones is the Swiss model,” he said, adding that in the latter system training is “not compulsory, but there are incentives that cause men to opt for annual training.”
Why just men? Yes, men are generally stronger than women, but that doesn’t mean women are not capable of military service. And there are also men who aren’t capable of something like that.
Note: I’m against being forced into military service, just asking this
From a different article:
“Of course, it will be open to both sexes,” added the prime minister. “I do not want to belittle the role of women here in any way, but war – due to physical conditions – is associated more with men.”
Ah, that’s fair. Thanks!
The reality of it is that men are expendable, from a population standpoint. Birth rates are far more limited by the number of women than the number of men, since pregnancy and gestation takes so long.
Obviously this is over reductive, but it’s one way to approach the question.
Thats not true at all, its not like farm husbandry, human do not just bred like animals. Only a fraction of women would be willing to have kids without a long term partner.
Societies where there is a high male mortality rate adapt. Iceland apparently has had its uncommonly accepting view of single motherhood for centuries, stemming from the large proportion of the male population employed in fishing, and the dangerous nature (in those days) of going to sea meaning that it was not uncommon for fathers to die before their children.
In the rogue state of Israel, it’s required for “both sexes”.
The only democracy in the Middle East.So I don’t see problem with it. More like a sexism problem.
They need an army of pawns and believe men suit better the job.
Maybe because they don’t want to send their whole population to the meat grinder?
Because women only want equal or greater representation in the cushy jobs.
Feminism has never been about equality and the people who say otherwise are lying to your faces.
No.
How come we never see a push for equal representation in waste management?
How come we never see a push to include women in the draft, or abolish it for men?
Actions speak louder than words.
We do. You’re wrong.
Of course some of you do, it’d be asinine to think that literally nobody does.
But by and large, most of you don’t care about equality.
No. Don’t mistake your own views for facts.
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Sorry bud, I’m not going to ignore all of the experiences I’ve had with you people just because those experiences don’t reaffirm
your worldviewswhat you want to believe.
Honestly pretty good idea, way better than mandatory service/conscription. Training with no strings attached.
Hehe no strings attached except they know where to find you when more cannon fodder is necessary.
I like Europe and Poland but Im not dying for some suit wearing men. I consider myself free because that’s what they told me in school.
As a pole I absolutely agree, I don’t want to die for the ruling class, however I’m also willing to be taught how to defend myself and others against fascist agression for free by the state.
It might be useful against russian fascists, but not only them if you know what I mean 🙃
Edit: about that first point - every man in poland has to pass a military classification anyways when they’re about 16 and get assigned an ability score for eventual conscription in war, so the list is already there. It might even prevent conscription because there will likely be more volunteers.
So where are you moving?
Right now Im going to stay home.
Well the suit is your president. He’s the billionaire who is grifting billions out of the working class. The average citizen should be making $13,000 more a year but doesn’t because the “trickle down”. That’s just evaluation of 1975-2023. If you made an extra 13,000 last year and every year, your life would be better in many ways would it not? For many Americans that’s rent for the year. Meaning they could buy a home off the money they spend on it. Cars? Life, immeasurable
Im polish, I can’t imagine living in the US right now.
The unfortunate reality of being close to Russia.
As a citizen of Canada, this has become relatable.
With a madman in charge may even be worse.
The mere existence of russia is causing people of EU so much… All the money making shit that explode, people’s time wasted on defence training, nations on rhe border living in constant stress.
What a cancer on this world.
It wouldn’t hurt. It would sure enough get me back in shape.
In all seriousness: I truly believe it would not hurt to put everyone through some sort of basic training, including gun handling.
During world war II, a Japanese general was once quoted as saying “you do not invade the mainland US. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass”.
Compare the cost of doing this, with the deterrent effect of your enemy’s knowing that basically the entire population can mobilize as a militia, it’s pretty extreme.
Go Poland!
Holy shit that guy’s so Polish.
I am Polish and I fully support it.
Yeah, right, please keep feeding globalists goals on depopulation. Slavic countries go first: Ukraine, Russia, and Poland to join. Arabic countries in parallel. Those who are most aggressive and able to stand for themselves should kill each other. Those who are not affected will become pleasant servants.
