• MudMan@fedia.io
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    1 month ago

    Not what he’s talking about. He’s still lying and whining, but not saying what you (or the headline) imply he’s saying.

    He’s saying that the pre-existing tariffs on out of quota dairy products are “cheating US farmers”. Which is not true. The body of the article explains this correctly and in good detail, but the headline sucks and nobody ever reads past the headline because we all have brain rot as a species.

    I wonder if a good Fedi alternative to Reddit would do something like force the link to be previewed in full or opened before getting to respond to the aggregation. Or maybe all social media was a mistake and none of it should exist, I don’t know.

    And let me be clear, I’m not attacking you here, this is a sytemic issue. Every human is subject to these patterns. Blame our collective wetware.

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      1 month ago

      I would get behind “click through before vote”

      Seems like it has potential for abuse, though, aka forcibly driving traffic.

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        I’ll make a complementary argument below in a sec, but “enforcing driving traffic” seems like a feature, not a bug.

        For how testy people get about crawling for copyrigted stuff for things like AI, everybody seems super chill about search engines and aggregators ripping off content at industrial scales with zero repercussions.

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          Tbh, I’d be less testy about bots scraping my sites for AI input IF they respected my robots.txt file and didn’t slam the server. They’re just rude and I don’t like it. Sometimes they’re so rude it’s effectively a DOS attack.

          Tbh, my sites exist to get information out there and I don’t care if someone mirrors my sites, as long as the information is still accurate.

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      The even shorter version:

      Canada is following the trade deal that Trump signed into law in 2018, as it pertains to what Trump is confusedly crying about.

      Part of that deal is that if the US exports too much dairy products to Canada, beyond an agreed upon volume, a higher tariff rate kicks in for that excess.

      This isn’t even happening, because the US has not exceeded that export limit.

      So… if by ‘cheating’, Trump means that the deal is being broken… no, it isn’t.

      If by ‘cheating’, Trump means that the terms of the deal are fundamentally unfair … it was Trump’s fucking deal after he blew up NAFTA! … so Trump is then saying his own trade deal is fundamentally unfair to America, despite massively hyping it up as awesome during his first term.

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      I know we all hate AI here… But getting an AI to rewrite headlines to de-sensationalize them sounds like a fantastic feature for a Lemmy client to implement. Just need mods to allow it

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        You can always do that manually when creating the post. I do think AI could enforce having a quick summary at a glance… if it was reliably accurate. But again, why do that and prevent traffic from going to the people who did all the work when you can just… you know, go read what the people who made all the work made.

        Ultimately there’s a fundamental problem in an attention-driven economy directed at squishy-brained humans with biased, broken cognitive systems that can be easily exploited.

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          You can always do that manually when creating the post

          True, but you won’t. You’ll click the button that automatically populates it instead.

          I do think AI could enforce having a quick summary at a glance… if it was reliably accurate. But again, why do that and prevent traffic from going to the people who did all the work

          Yeah, that’s why I don’t like the summary idea, because then even fewer people would click through. It also requires opening the comments which also most people won’t do.

          I guess fewer people click through with less sensational headlines too, but at least they’re not mislead.