It can’t be overstated what an utter disaster this is for Ukraine. It’s almost certain that Russia will now open a new front in the Sumy region now where there aren’t any serious defenses to fall back to. The AFU will be forced to try and stop that because of the proximity to Kiev, but that means pulling more troops from their collapsing front in the south. This could potentially be the catalyst for a general collapse of the front.
Just like all of Europe scrambled to organize the Minsk agreements after the disasters at Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo, now the US is begging the Russians to agree to a ceasefire. That is how you know Ukraine is in real trouble…
My thoughts exactly, except this time Russia isn’t going to fall for it.
Anyone else remember reading on reddit recently that the Ukranian troops had supposedly sealed off the tunnel before anyone got out of it and killed everyone inside?
I remember the Ghost of Kiev and the grannies with pickle jars taking down Russian jets too. Doesn’t mean i take it seriously.
“We are going to surrender because i did not want to shoot anyone.” - POW
From one of the videos in there, seems like a middle aged guy, likely a citizen kidnapped by the ukronazi recruiters.
Lots of people like that in the Ukraine military these days. It’s very plausible this was some poor guy they kidnapped off the street and forced to the front line with a gun at his back. From what i have read they were in the process of replacing the better trained professional assault units that first went into Kursk with lower quality, forcefully mobilized troops for a while now.
They already had a shortage of trained and motivated manpower before, and they spent a lot of them in Kursk which further compounded the problem. Now apparently those elite troops were sent back to the Donbass to try and plug the gaps and halt the collapse that is in the process of happening there, which is a big part of why things went to shit so fast in Sumy-Kursk. They’ve reached a point where plugging a leak in one place just opens up a bigger one somewhere else.
But i also wouldn’t immediately take what someone who was captured is saying at face value. They have a vested interest in downplaying their enthusiasm and potential involvement in war crimes. After the Azov Nazis in Mariupol were captured every one of them claimed to be a cook or a driver.
They waited for days inside the pipe? Wtf these guys are crazy.
That’s what the one guy they interviewed about this is saying. Could be true; crazier things have happened in wars.
Although you’d think they’d want to keep the details of the execution secret in case they want to try doing something similar in the future.
In cases like this i would assume it’s not uncommon to mix in some lies with the truth in order to obfuscate how it was really done. Like for instance, if they did it in two days, say it was done in four. Admit what you can’t hide and change in small, plausible ways the details that the enemy is still in the dark about, such that they will be operating on faulty intelligence next time.
Of course they’d need the soldiers who were involved to go along with this and not get angry that their story is being told wrong.
Or maybe they really are telling us exactly how it happened because they figure this stuff will leak out eventually anyway. For me this is the simplest and most likely explanation, because it is very hard nowadays to keep things secret for long when the other side has a sophisticated intelligence network.
In any case this whole thing makes for a great story for the domestic Russian media. I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point in the not too distant future we see Putin handing out some Hero of Russia medals to the people involved.
Am i the only one that every time i see news about the Ukraine war cant help but think about how sad it is that the CIA successfully managed to make a bunch of people who should have been USSR citizens living peaceful lives kill each other? I’m glad Lenin didn’t live long enough to see it. He would be so sad.
It really is the real tragedy of this war, and proxy wars the US causes. They turn people in the absolute worst version of themselves they could be, instead of caring, kind individuals, we get fascists. And people who should be friends, neighbours, colleagues, are turned into enemies who blindly hate and kill each other.
The problem is that what we see as horrific tragedy, our enemies see as a great victory
And people who should be friends, neighbours, colleagues, are turned into enemies who blindly hate and kill each other.
Another way of phrasing that is: people who in another time would have fought together against the West (and might do so again one day) are now killing each other instead. From the perspective of the West, this is a dream come true.
LMAO
They are losing their minds
