The secretary of state, heading to talks with Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia, said future talks with Moscow will be needed to determine what Russia is willing to give up to end the war.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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  • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Because they’re losing and a part of losing in a war is making concessions to the winner.

    If Ukraine didn’t make concessions for a peace deal, Russia will just continue winning the war and Ukrainians will have even less.

    Sorry to all the new people in this world that fell for the propaganda machine. Hopefully this can be a learning experience for you all (it won’t.)

      • lorty@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Just look at Kursk, Velyka Novosilka and Chasiv Yar and ponder for a bit if they are winning or losing.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          1 month ago

          How much of their territory is under occupation vs. a month ago? By your logic, the USSR should have capitulated in 1942.

          This war has so far been a series of quick UA gains slowly recaptured by Russia before more quick UA gains. Russia has held more of UA before. What changed since the siege of Kyiv that makes it make sense to capitulate? That was a worse situation, yet here we are, years later and Kyiv is still Ukrainian, and the VDV has still not recovered.

    • Furbag@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Because they’re losing and a part of losing in a war is making concessions to the winner.

      I’ve been hearing the line that Ukraine is losing for three years now. Pretty sure if Russia could win this conflict, they would have done so already.

      • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.comEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I’ve been hearing the line that Ukraine is losing for three years now

        And how have the frontlines moved over said 3 years?

        • Furbag@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          With Ukraine failing to take back their occupied territory, but striking at Russian soil and taking some for themselves to use as a bargaining chip. I’d say it’s a dead stalemate right now,