Canada will keep in place its retaliatory tariffs against US-made products as long as President Donald Trump persists with a trade war, said Mark Carney, the Canadian prime minister-designate.

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    Good luck – E. Jean Carroll just kept getting excuses to re-sue him, which was hilarious, since he just could. not. resist. defaming her when legally ordered not to. :). The man seems absolutely compelled to double-down on his disrespect if he is pressured to act like a decent person. He just can’t resist trying to “assert dominance” or something.

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        this congress? the majority is drunk on the maga juice, the minority is a disorganized mess still in shock. and combined, the vast majority is bought and paid for by those who stand to gain the most from this shitshow.

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    It seems selling Tariffs to his constituency as something that only affects other countries was his biggest grift after all.

    Ah, who am I kidding. It’s all grift. A gigantic hairball of grift.

    I wish I knew enough about Canadian politics to have a deeper opinion, but afaics: Good

    Oh and as a Eu citizen I feel very good about Canada maybe hopefully joining some sort of alliance with us. I didn’t have it on my radar before 2025.

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      You know Canada is a NATO founding member, don’t you?

      Also we have a free trade agreement with Canada.

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        As a Canadian, we’ve had the attitude for awhile “at least we’re not as bad as the USA” but we’ve definitely drifted from the EU way of doing things. I’ve always felt like a hybrid between the two (with leanings more to eu).

        I wish as Canadians, instead of looking over the fence and patting ourselves on the back for not being the USA, we’d look over the fence and try to see what we can do to improve more (because why reinvent the wheel if you don’t have to).

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    Canadians showing Trump you can put tariffs without shooting yourself in the foot.

    Be careful, he might learn the trick. Or can he learn?

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      The Democrats don’t tend to immediately back out of whatever direction the previous Republicans set the country in. maybe it has something to do with not being wasteful or respecting democracy or I don’t know . I’d imagine this New foreign policy will last for 20 years.

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    This is what the Orange Turd deserves. Act like a shit get treated like shit.

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      Such a whiny brat about a needless tarrif war yam tits started himself. This orange turd has no clue how much Canadians hold grudges. This won’t ever be over. Canada is moving on.

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    But everybody said about Trumps tariffs, that the American people will have to pay them. Can somebody explain why Canada keeping the Tariffs is good then? Aren’t it the Canadian people paying for them?

    Honest question btw, I’m not trying to be snarky. I’m just a bit slow sometimes.

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      I don’t think they’re saying it’s good economics and yes, for the most part, we understand how these tariffs will affect us.

      But there’s a lot of anger at Trump here. Booing the American national anthem is not something we do lightly. I haven’t seen people this united for a common cause for a long time. I regularly see people checking labels at grocery stores to avoid buying American even if we have to pay more.

      We know a recession is likely for both countries and we’ll be hit harder by it. It’s a small price to pay for our sovereignty.

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      The Canadian Tariffs are targeted at certain goods that Canada knows it can ramp up production internally, or source from Europe/Asia. they are not broad tariffs on everything. It will cost some some, but there has been alot of thought to maximize pressure on American business while minimizing pressure on Canadian consumer.

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      You are correct, tariffs hurt everyone. The direct cost is paid by the importer not the exporter. Part of the reaction-turned propaganda point about the US is that American people will bear the brunt of the tariffs. This is because Trump/MAGA framed tariffs as a tax that other countries would pay the direct cost of, not the Americans importing the goods.

      This led to a downplaying of how it would negatively affect the foreign industries exporting the goods, and apply political pressure on those countries. This is how tariffs usually work, you put tariffs on certain goods to apply economic/political pressure towards specific goals, e.g. tariffs on Chinese EVs to protect NA auto industry. This still hurts NA consumers in that they don’t have access to cheap Chinese EVs, but gives NA auto a chance to catch up. Tariffs are a normal economic tool that can help with bringing industry back into your country, but it’s a tricky balance.

      Canada is under no illusions that we will have to pay tariffs on imported American goods. There’s also a nationalist reaction to boycott American goods to an extent for starting this trade war, but Canadians will still hurt. The alternative would be to take it and submit to America’s whims, which is not a real option.

      This trade war is not within the norms of standard economic diplomacy/negotiation though, it’s just unhinged chaos. IMO the chaos is the point, giving cover for Trump&friends to solidify complete control as they turn the US into an authoritarian regime and helps to bring American industries to heel under their rule.

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    If Project 2025 is to be believed then the goal is to remove tariffs on the US, including things like dairy, telcos, and banking. Which it will be interesting what that looks like if it does happen, I do wonder if things like cheese and cellular would be made affordable via economies of scale.

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    Good to see Carney is holding the line. But will he keep/bulid off of the energy Trudeau used?

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      The energy of “no business case” for alternatives export markets like Germany or Japan? Given he worked in the ESG department of Brookfield I’d garner that he will continue that legacy.

      Who needs a funded social safety net, we can simply borrow billions more and further fuel home prices to artificially grow GDP.

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        Better Dwelling was founded in 2017 as a real estate news service that used artificial intelligence to assist with its data journalism. It was co-founded by Stephen Punwasi.

        That paragraph alone tells me to be skeptical of them.