• RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    This isn’t just about trans people in sports. He is giving his platform to bigots who are anti-trans people existing in hopes of getting their support in 2028. It’s gross.

    “It’s a complicated issue that nobody seems to have a great idea on how to solve to make everyone happy as of yet, and we have bigger societal issues for Trans people that are more pressing than fucking sports. Like protecting their existence and making sure they aren’t further marginalized.”

    Giving platforms to bigots make this much harder. Why give them greater access?

    • just_another_person@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      Logic says that what he’s doing is what he said: bridge the gap between opposing forces in society.

      Rationale says that he’s trying to appease a wider audience to run for President.

      Do I like it? Not a fucking bit. Is either solution necessary to keep operating in politics? Absolutely.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        Logic says that what he’s doing is what he said: bridge the gap between opposing forces in society.

        Centrism’s holy grail is common ground between bigots whose approval they seek and… whatever whiny minority wants unreasonable shit like equality.

        • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          1 month ago

          Newsflash. In a democracy, the bigots still get to vote. And if there are more bigots than minorities then the bigots get to keep the minorities down. The minorities effectively need to convince the bigots to give them the rights. But this whole rhetoric is bs, trans people have equal rights, not equal acceptance into society, but the government can’t really force that.

          No one who is in favor of trans women in sports, or for minors to have any form of hormonal treatment is gonna win an election and trust me that for a lot of people those two issues, while they will never affect them, are greater than any economic issue. It tends to cause such an emotional reaction in people that it overrides everything else.

          This is the political reality that a would be candidate needs to grapple with.

    • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      “Deplatforming” people is explicitly the reason why the far right has gained so much power. We used to bring the KKK to tv and they always embarrassed themselves. When you deplatform people you in fact send them to platforms where they can control the narrative, and where everyone agrees or won’t disagree with them (like Joe Rogan). Instead platform them and put them in a position in which they have to defend their views against someone who disagrees with them.

      Forbidden ideology is as alluring as forbidden knowledge.

      • dickalan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        Bro, you’re saying we should give racists microphones so they can recruit more racist shit bags, what the fuck are you smoking?

        • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          1 month ago

          Im saying that shunning everyone from the right is giving the racists a platform, a stage and an audience in which they can still recruit more racist shitbags but without any opposition and even more disimformation.

          They built an entire eco system under your noses, and they have as much reach and influence as the “mainstream” ecosystem. That would have never happened without this whole deplatforming people bullshit for even the smallest disagreement with the agenda mentality. This is why far right ideology is spreading more than ever. You cannot suppress ideology, when you do you only make it more appealing to the kind of people who are already susceptible to it.

          • dickalan@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 month ago

            Sorry, I bit your head off, I’m just so angry these days, thank you for taking the time to explain it to me