• PNWKid@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Bernie has literally stated that he only runs as a Dem because of the 2 party system and would otherwise be an independent which is the case with most progressives.

    Turning up your nose at 2 perfectly good candidates in favor of some non-existent hypothetical candidate is crazy.

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      1 month ago

      You are in .ml, of course they would advocate for someone further left than Bernie and AOC no matter how implausible their ideas are.

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        To be clear, AOC’s and Bernie’s ideas don’t seem to have a real path to implementation. Marxists aren’t idealists, we are practical and are Materialists, and part of that practicality is understanding that policies can sound good, but without a path to implementation they might as well be ghosts, even if they are more moderate ideas.

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          1 month ago

          Funny how their “marxist” ideas are and have been implemented in Europe for 80+ years.

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            1 month ago

            I didn’t call Bernie or AOC Marxists, rather they are Social Democrats. I myself am a Marxist-Leninist and am speaking as one, hence “we.” Social Democracies in the Nordics are built on Imperialism, that’s how they sustain themselves, and only have the privledges they do because the bourgeoisie was afraid of revolution like in Russia when it first went Socialist.

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      Correct, Bernie’s strategy also hasn’t worked. As a Communist I don’t consider Bernie and AOC to be “perfectly good,” and the 2 party system itself needs to be overthrown in order to be fixed, which isn’t happening at the ballot box either.

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        1 month ago

        Bernie and those like him have informed me and many others of what a good politician can look like and may have inspired others like AOC to start their career. I will support them as much as I can because they may inspire even more like them to actually have enough people to make a meaningful change in the party or, if we miraculously get away from the two party system, spin up a new one.

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          Bernie certainly isn’t as bad as, say, Fetterman, but he has his fair share of bad policy (especially foreign policy, which ends up just being justification for US Imperialism), and due to how the 2 party system works the Democrats will never be able to truly be “taken over” by progressives, as that would hurt their donor-base, the bourgeoisie. A genuine worker party is necessary, but it will not be capable of being reformist, it must be revolutionary, ie PSL.

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            1 month ago

            I respectfully disagree that the party could never change due to their current funding, and I am rubbed the wrong way by how you continue to seem to push that I shouldn’t support better politicians just because they aren’t perfect.