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Please link directly to articles, and provide archive links in the body or comments. I’m not locking or removing this at this time, but please take note in the future.
FWIW, seeing that the link was to an archive encouraged me to check out this Lemmy post. I understand the policy decision, but I wish I could see an indication in my feed that an archive link is available.
Understandable, although it is difficult and time-consuming to moderate such links, and nearly impossible if they are allowed outright. In this case, there was already significant discussion before it was identified (as well as other factors), so I made a judgement call to permit the rule violation. This is a user who should know better.
You may be interested in using the tesseract lemmy client, which provides a smart linkbox on every post which includes archive links, etc.
Not even an acknowledgement from OP, that’s just disrespectful and shitty.
Oh no, somebody didn’t respect a faceless mod on the internet?? What is this world coming to!
Excuse me, I have a face. It is clearly a lemming astronaut holding up a peace sign. * huffs off stomping in my space boots *
The thought police are throwing cinder blocks at us.
I have just left Reddit and deleted my account, on account of this.
Fuck Reddit.
Congrats on dropping your balls to become a man
I read the article and I couldn’t believe how much of an effort they’re making to silence people. This is the world we live in. It’s so sad.
Luigi is not a hero. He is an alleged hero.
Whether or not he’s the hero he’s been accused of being, he’s certainly a living martyr now
[email protected] restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian in a time when Russia is effectively trying destroy the west. At the same time, they’re allowing rather blatant anti-west sentiment. And I’m not saying that that’s fundamentally bad, but rather that there is no such thing as unbiased.
Reddit sure sucks and needs to die though. But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.
By inconsistently choosing when they will moderate supporting murder and when they won’t, they are essentially deciding what murder is okay. And that “should” disqualify them from section 230 protections. It doesn’t because section 230 is too broad. But by picking which third party content to allow they are essentially editorializing using other people words.
I saw the Hammer and Sickle on lemmy.ml and that was enough for me to know that they were probably Campists and Stalinists lol.
I guess it’s good Lemmy has the different instances(?) even tho it’s a bit annoying.
The beauty is that you can just block the annoying instances. I’ve blocked lemmy.ml so I don’t see their communities, but can still see their users commenting on posts.
Not all of us are happy with it. The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.
But… it’s genuinely one of the better moderated instances. It is quite peaceful compared to other communities. I dont see lemmygrad, I dont see beehaw, it’s just, restful
How idiotic to stay there get on an instance that does not have such a bias with the moderation.
I have accounts on other instances, but lemmy.ml is genuinely quite peaceful. I find myself always coming back to it.
There’s a distinct lack of general abuse there, and people seem to restrain themselves from needless insults
The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.
Just following orders so you can get content?
That’s why I like my instance, the admins are great and we have the same mindset of federation: let the users decide who they want to block and only defederate from a instance if they’re hugely problematic or doing something illegal.
I think lemmy.ml is federated with lemmygrad right? I never see their stuff either, it’s probably such a small instance that it kinda gets lost from the activity of the bigger and more popular communities.
Yeah on second glance, it is federated with lemmygrad, but I somehow don’t see the posts from there. Apparently, I’ve only blocked one sub from there “GenZedong”, but that seems to be enough for me to not see any of their stuff at a ll.
I am currently slowly migrating towards another instance, but I genuinely do feel comfortable on lemmy.ml
You are not the first person I’ve heard this from. Ironically the people who avoid anything even resembling a political topic can have quite the calm experience there, in the other communities.
However, it’s still supporting that behavior, and there’s also the “first they came for” mantra, which suggests that even though they haven’t banned you from the entire instance yet, it may still lead to a shocking surprise when they eat your face off later rather than sooner.
But yes there are many other instances to choose from:-). Like feddit.org for a location-based instance for someone in Europe, or Discuss.Online for someone based in the USA, or themed instances such as programming.dev or literature.cafe, etc.
Not sure what to expect with the “eating my face off” part, but I can always just migrate away
Yes but its better that if people who are easily misled find .ml they don’t just see a bunch of propaganda with noone arguing about it. It makes it look more normal. The best thing is to constantly call them idiots and accuse them of solvent abuse. That way when gullible idiots come across it they know it’s stupid. A lot of people need to be told.
Great thing about Lemmy is that I can block all instances from lemmy.ml.
How do I block .ml results?
Are there other servers which amplify problematic content?
So the Tankie Triad is:
- lemmy.ml
- hexbear
- lemmygrad.ml
Edit:
The trouble is that, as far as I know, there’s currently no way as a user to block an entire instance. You can play whack-a-/C and block communities as you bump into them. The other option is to look for instances that have de-federated from these instances, and make a new account on one of those instances.As @[email protected] pointed out, instance blocking is possible:
You can block instances in your settings. For your instance, that’s lemmy.ca/settings then selects blocks and add the instances you want to block
Are there other servers which amplify problematic content?
There’s a lot more than the 3 listed above, the ones I listed are militant in their belief that Russia and China are Marxist-Leninist utopias. There’s some communities and users across all the instances that are problematic. If you see something you don’t like, block the user or community.
There doesn’t seem to be a way to block all users of an instance though unfortunately. You can still see posts and comments they make on other instances
I’m seeing a lot of people call Hexbear a tankie instance lately - they aren’t really though, they are an instance full of trolls who are militant against any belief system at all (most especially their own?), or as near to that as makes no difference. They constantly lie - most especially to one another, and have even been caught lying to other instance admins.
I would lump Hexbear in under a name like The Big Three (to block), but I just thought I’d point out that many people are going to argue at its being called specifically a “tankie” one. And ofc it’s more than just these three - e.g. Midwest.social has been caught in numerous scandals as well, though unlike the Big Three, the actual users there are perfectly fine, so I don’t advocate for blocking it, just avoiding the communities there.
Speaking of, the Lemmy “instance blocking” would have been much better named as a “community mute”, since it allows you to see the users from that instance, and they can vote on and reply to your content, triggering notifications, etc. The only real way to do an actual instance block is to move to an instance that has defederated from it (requires admin rights), or use PieFed that can implement a true user block from any instance you ask for (no admin approval necessary), or the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect can likewise do that.
I’m seeing a lot of people call Hexbear a tankie instance lately - they aren’t really though, they are an instance full of trolls who are militant against any belief system at all (most especially their own?), or as near to that as makes no difference. They constantly lie - most especially to one another,
From my experience they’re anarchists/communists like they say they are.
From my experience and the majority of Lemmy’s, they’re tankies.
The only people I really seeing anarchists/communists are places like db0.
[email protected] restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian
Cringe
The lemmy trash server triad is blocked here. Do they really even exist?
Lemmy.ml is not defederated from Lemmy.world, so new users will see everything by default.
Also, “instance blocking” would be better named as "community muting’, bc it leaves users from those instances free to vote and reply to your content, trigger notifications, and you’ll still see it in other communities.
To truly block it, someone has to first even know about it, and then the only real options are all rather extreme - move to an instance that has defederated from them all (Lemmy.ml in particular is extremely rarely defederated from), switch to using PieFed, a Lemmy alternative written in Python rather than Rust, or the Lemmy apps Sync or Connect. Or implement a filter like with Ublock Origin or some such. None of these are trivial, and again, none are available to new users to even be told are possible, or helpful to be done.
But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.
Its not murder, it’s self defense. A mass murderer was stopped by Luigi, end of story.
The government has accused Luigi of stopping a mass murderer.
And somehow they’ve spun that as terrorism.
Hmm, I shit on Russia all the time every chance I get and as far as I know I was never warned about it, even on lemmy.ml
[email protected] blocks Luigi posting https://lemmy.world/comment/15689396
I am literally here, now, commenting on this because I am reading the article to this on reddit and … I can’t believe they are going to start punishing upvotes! That is the final stray for Reddit. Its dead. Gone the way of Digg. I am literally here now to start moving over to Lemmy.
I just realized - and must keep in mind, with a federated platform like lemmy, all of your upvotes and downvotes are broadcasted across the network. ANYONE could track your upvotes and downvotes in THIS system.
I had no idea how much I valued voting privacy.
Honestly, I don’t even like the downvote/upvote system because it promotes censorship and a lot of the times it’s just an agree/disagree button. I feel that no matter how right or wrong someone is, they should always be able to express their opinion in a civil manner (obviously there are mods for removing rule breaking posts/comments). Downvoting just kills any discussion.
I’ve been places without upvotes and downvotes and they’re just garbage piles of spam and useless replies.
The Steam Comminity Forms for instance: if you’re trying to get any useful information on a recent release go somewhere else, as half of what you’ll find is people complaining that the game is *woke" (because there is a woman or a minority in it somewhere), and the other half is people complaining that the game isn’t a completely different genre.
With downvotes the useless, troll, and off topic comments can be filtered out to not clutter up the useful posts.
You are not allowed to even nod at a reddit article anymore. The voting system on lemmy is broken though. Your votes shouldn’t follow you.
You don’t have voting privacy here on Lemmy though, and theoretically instance admins could “punish” you based on voting patterns.
But decentralization helps that
If an instance becomes oppressive, nothing is stopping you from going to a new one. You can’t do that with Reddit. Let’s say my instance Lemmy.ca becomes awful, I can make a new account on another and still comment on this community. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse.
On the other hand, harvesting that sort of data is as simple as creating an instance and Federating with whatever sub you want to spy on
The entire system wants you to forget about Luigi and the entire issue. Sort of memory hole it like so many other things and let them punish him in secret. So it’s no surprise Reddit and others will try to Streisand it.
Elon Musk. President Donald Trump’s extremely online lackey has aimed plenty of ire at Reddit from his perch at DOGE, first attacking the federal workers he’s been firing en masse for discussing the chaos on r/FedNews, then expanding his purview from there.
Fuck fElon, fuck spez, fuck trump, and fuck the american oligarchy.
Fuck all oligarchies and oligarchs.
Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi
We have free speech here.
Kinda. We have a bunch of small instances each with its own set of rules/norms. Lemmy.ml for example is not going to take a very different approach to moderation then lemmynsfw…
Everyone says that, but I haven’t run into any issues and .ml is the main one I use
And you might never. But lemmynsfw is a porn instance whereas .ml is not. Hence different goals for moderation.
The website is attacking the users that made it the front page of the internet
No they aren’t. Those users have long since left Reddit lol
13 years there and millions in karma. I left when they chose to become Zionists and hate-mongers
worldnews was a plague, i had to block that sub. i was also reminding people in pics sub how the pict was about gaza and it wash bashing on biden pushing propaganda, and also gaza conflicts in the past had very little effect on elections, i just block and report those people. mostly it was inappropiate for that sub too.
I never understood WorldNews. I said back in November pretty plainly that Trump won and so I fear that America would eventually leave or attack NATO. I said I was afraid that Trump would side with Russia outright. That we would abandon our allies in the Pacific, too. That our inaction would create a gap for China to fill. That the gap might be big enough to embolden China who then might make moves on Taiwan.
And I was downvoted (which is fine) but the comments I got were kind of bewildering. The people who engaged with me were trying to convince me that Trump would never side with Russia and there is no evidence ever of this.
And of course here we are now. And all of these things are happening.
The whole Gaza thing you mention—I understand the outrage—but I wonder how much of it online was manufactured in places like Pics because of the election.
Seeing the conversations here on Lemmy makes me think…there’s something very weird going on on Reddit. I’ve rode out Reddit drama over the past 12 years. This is not the narwhal at midnight website. This is something very dark.
Yes, but note that it was happening here as well. Certain places here were HIGHLY active in the BoTh SiDeS sAmE activity, just prior to the USA election, and similarly influenced other elections world-wide. Learn which places these are, so that you can take full advantage of the Fediverse, which isn’t “a place” so much as a forum software that allows many many places to share their content - but all sides here are NOT equally dedicated to truthiness.
Here is one example:
Judge for yourself what you think might be the intention for making and spreading it… although if we are going by the mantra of the effects that it may have caused possibly being the reason for which it was made, it looks to me to suggest that people in the USA should not be enthusiastic about voting or encouraging others to vote for Kamala Harris.
Edit: to be clear I’m not suggesting that Lemmy is “the same” as Reddit - in some ways we are worse here, being even more authoritian than Reddit was (or rather “is” I guess:-P), but in other ways it’s so, so much better, in that we can pack up and move to another instance and simply carry on, having access to the vast majority of content as before (exceptions include defederations and a DM directed to our old account won’t follow us), which was (oops, “is” again:-) not true for Reddit.
People should be free to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect. Changing how we vote will let people vote how they want and still have their vote count against the Republicans.
Why are the democrats saying no to these votes? Why do they continue to use the voting system republicans prefer in blue states they control?
Videos on Electoral Reform
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
I feel like the admins over there really take for granted how much people care about Reddit. The more they degrade the sense of community, the more it continues to crumble until users feel that there’s no point in going back.
With how many posts are just pure AI generated rage bait, it’s becoming more clear by the day how little worth there is left on Reddit.
[deleted] is a common user name there!
Did they change the way things are formatted? Such as the [removed] comments now just appearing as [deleted]? Deleted would imply the users removed their own content while removed would imply the mods or admins removed it, at least that’s how things have always been. However, I have only been seeing a sea of [deleted] lately.
After the API kerfuffle, a lot of users who left also used tools to completely erase their content from the site, which explains the sea of [deleted] posts and users. You may also see comments and text body posts that are full of incoherent gibberish because one of the tools didn’t delete the content in the normal way, it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
I used a tool that did this. I also used it on purpose because I figured it would make the content more difficult to farm. Lots of software doesn’t actually delete anything when you delete it, but it’s a lot more work to put versioning in and then you’d have to go search the version history to find a version that wasn’t mangled to farm it…so that’ll all theoretically make it more difficult for them to find what I originally wrote.
i just ended up deleted all my comments on my last 2 accts, so they cant be farmed, unless reddit undeletes them. wonder when reddit is going to pull a FB ressurection, revives your account but controlled by AI bots for right wing disinformation.
They’ve already been caught doing that - well, not for disinformation spreading but for engagement appearance, around the time Reddit was doing its IPO so needed to hike its stats to give to advertisers as quickly as possible. While entire posts, comment for comment, though with different usernames but the identical responses to the identical questions, and then deeper responses to those, and so forth.
So they don’t need the appearance of older accounts - they can manufacturer whatever they need, from scratch already. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they created “10 year old” accounts at will.
It likely looks to them as if the accounts that remain to be moderated are humans, the same as it was in the past, even though it’s no longer that way now.
I still see active accounts over a decade old
rather suspicious since only bots have those types of accts, i have a hunch reddit is actually accessing those accts or allowing bots to take over the accts. i heard people couldnt log back into thier old accts
Yeah, it’s a playground for bots and misinformation now
Same as any social media site.
Reportedly Reddit was not always that way though, earlier on.
i started visiting reddit back around 2009 when places like digg and fark kept linking over there. i liked it because it had a design that the average person wouldn’t like - the old design. they sorted comments in a new way that i liked. it’s been a slow boil, but look at the reddit monstrosity now. the redesign is puke-inducing, and there really isn’t any point in the vote sorting any more because people don’t upvote for visibility any more insomuch as just use it as like/dislike. there isn’t even any benefit in trying to point that out any more either, because today’s reddit users just don’t understand that approach to votes - and it really, really sucks.
I want to upvote this because I like it, but now I’m conflicted because I don’t want to inadvertently abuse the upvote mechanism.
yo - upvote it if you think it’s worth it for other people to see it, whether you agree with it or not. it might spark a debate. it might sway opinion. but either way, voting for visibility is the best thing to do on a SMALL forum like this. Appreciate lemmy while it’s still small!!!
AND fwiw - your upvotes should probably not be monitored. that would just be a huge dick move (sorry, it took me a sec).
Hmmm, perhaps people should start linking threads from here on reddit…
Believe it or not: straight to jail.
I think the USA has taken a deep dive in international standing since January 2025, and Reddit is a USA-flavored USA-centered content publisher in terms of front page community. Things were pretty anti-USA with all the support of Israel in 2024, but now in 2025 with Elon Musk being the center of all USA society attention every minute of every day, sites like Reddit are being turned away from (or people only reading to mock the USA) - where the HiveMind is extremely USA technology consumerism / technology lifestyle worship.
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025. It’s tech addiction as the primary religion on Reddit. And I think those outside the USA are sick of that machine lust / machine mind behavior of Elon Musk, Zuck, Amazon, etc.
“Technopoly is a state of culture. It is also a state of mind. It consists in the deification of technology, which means that the culture seeks its authorization in technology, finds its satisfactions in technology, and takes its orders from technology.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025.
By funding you mean resuming advertising on the platform, right? I am not aware that Apple is financing X directly. In the end it is money in Musk‘s pockets, I know, but the distinction is worth pointing out nonetheless.
I hope Reddit dies! Free Luigi!
Be careful, .world mods are likely to bad you for calling for action
But that’s not a call to action. Or is that the joke? Lol
You cannot wish for anything to die on .world, especially if it is a person or a corporate-person. The “centrist” .world mods look down on anything that makes capitalism or republicans look bad.
The instance operators are just trying not to get legally accountable for it? Call for murder is prosecutable in many countries. Also in the Netherlands where that instance is located.
Oh fuck off, name one lemmy instance, with evidence, that has ever had a run-in with the law.
Just the fear of that alone was enough to cause dmv.social to shut down, back during the waves of CSAM attacks, before the automated software was implemented to filter it out.
So what you’re saying is I’m right.
I think, ultimately, the fate of any non-federated social network to eventually become another tool of the ruling class is simply a function of the hierarchical nature of the capitalist system. Federated platforms are resistant to this, but not immune, and I fear, with the rise of cheap Turing complete software, federated platforms are doomed as well.
What do you mean by “cheap Turing complete software”?
This article fails to mention that Huffman has previously praised Musk and how he runs Twitter.
Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow.
More importantly he’s a doomsday prepper with fucked up views:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.
If I end up on top after the apocalypse I’ll go out of my way to get him as a slave.
#EnslaveSteveHuffman
YES!! THANK YOU!!
huffman caught whiff of what’s happening, and this is just a stupid empty move to stir people up and try to cause chaos. everything that’s happening is so that people can manipulate and exploit investments. i got my second (or third? fourth?) permanent ban for bringing it up… well probably - i don’t know because reddit removes the comment it bans you for and doesn’t let you see it. so fucking done.
Glad people are starting to realize this is how the ruling class wanted to take away our freedom of speech.
Their goal was to get us all on their company platforms where the only discussions that are allowed are the ones the ruling class deems appropriate.
LOL Tiktok sent me a message for posting “Incarcerate Mango Mussolini” as a violation of it’s community guidelines so it seems like it’s happening everywhere.
Fuck you tiktok, you can’t stop me.
EDIT: Formating
Duck censorship.
