I’m out of the loop for mental health reasons. Someone fill me in so I don’t go into a spiral trying to find it?
Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader. Said he would vote no on the maga funding bills… then the next day changed his mind like the coward he is.
In current Senate Rules, 60 votes are needed to end discussion (aka: cloture) in order to prceed to a vote. republicans only have a simple majority so they would need a few democrats in order to pass the bill. But Chuck the Cuck just told the democrats to vote yes.
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I used to think it was a conspiracy theory that Democrats were controlled opposition but the way they shoot themselves in the foot over and over… It can’t be a coincidence that they keep making the worst choices constantly.
Call your senators, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is tomorrow morning. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he’ll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)
Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won’t vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now
Link to find direct numbers your senators
https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm
Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121
House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it’s not just AOC on this - it’s quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” - Napoleon Bonaparte
What I was thinking is that Trump and Musk are very unpopular partly because they are firing all the state workers. Many veterans. If Democrats shut down the government, the blame will be reversed. Democrats will be blamed for putting state workers out of work.
And besides, shutting down the government is literally what Trump wants. He could claim the victim (as he loves to do) while getting exactly what he wants.
Is this similar to your point?
A total shutdown is far more likely to hurt trump and the Republicans. The Democrats by supporting this are letting certain Republicans oppose it.
I have heard that government shutdowns are usually blamed on the party that forced the shutdown. Ie democrats in this scenario.
Now, we all believe Musk and Trump are a threat that needs to be stopped at all costs, so a government shutdown would be good. But how will the average American view it?
Honestly, your napoleon quote seemed very much in favor of not shutting the government down. Let Trump keep making mistakes.
The gop are forcing the shutdown. The dems are the minority, the gop needs to negotiate.
Ok, I agree with you, but the majority of americas do not. Which is my point. Every time Republicans shut down the government using your logic, they were the ones that ended up suffering in the end.
You have no clue what the majority of Americans think. Shutdown or no shutdown any strife will be pinned to democrats. That’s how this works. Don’t play coy. Democrats do nothing but horde political capital. If they don’t ever spend it, it goes away.
What I’m looking at is in 4 years, will the GOP be able to claim they made the country better? I don’t care how it happens if this country doesn’t ‘feel’ like they are in a better place there is a reckoning coming for the GOP.
You think Chuck Schumer has no idea what the majority of Americans want? You think he doesn’t have databases of internal polling numbers that show him how people will likely react to this?
It’s weird cause that napoleon quote was so fitting for what I am saying. Let Trump keep making his own bed. The American people are reacting negatively towards Trump, not Democrats.
Anecdotally, my dad has been sending me anti Trump memes. He’s always been right wing, but not maga. So we haven’t talked politics in years and all of a sudden he is vocally anti trump.
The momentum is against Trump now. If Schumer shuts the government down there will be finger pointing on both sides. If he keeps it open and lets Trump keep fucking up, the people that have Trump the election will be less likely to show up in the midterms.
Anyway, we are just 2 random people that ultimately don’t know what we’re talking about. I’m just giving the case Schumer is likely considering.
It’s fucking sickening. This is the one piece of meaningful power they have until the midterms, and Republicans didn’t even bother consulting them.
Now they want to give it up, for what? A pinky promise they’ll play nice? To make sure Trump doesn’t get ammunition to blame Democrats for everything?
Fucking coward.
They want the same things the republicans want.
It’s like liberals don’t even understand they’ve been living in an oligarchy for decades?
“I’m Chuck Schumer and I’m a fucking sellout.”
If you have to ask WTF about this dude, then you know nothing about this dude.
The GOP is actively dismantling the government. Why would they care about a government shutdown?
Seems stupid to try to threaten them with one.
Not to mention, they’ve consistently threatened us with shutdowns up until now, so the democrats threatening one won’t work. Heck, they would revel in democrats using something from their playbook.
A shutdown can allow them to dismantle the government faster.
No, it’ll throw them for a loop. Fucking musk got social security records and thought every entry was getting payments, despite many being dead. The dumb fuck didn’t even check their status before crying fraud - which is a serious crime that must be investigated
The records contain everyone who ever got it, dead or alive
These people are imbeciles. These chuckle fucks are struggling to accomplish their goals with unlimited power, you think they could navigate a shut down government?
I think it might be easier for them to access closed buildings and servers. I think it makes it easier for them to shut down agencies they don’t like, such as the department of education. And I doubt the federal workers would get back pay this time as they have in the past.
The shutdown would screw a lot of people. The CR could be worse. And the Democrats, as usual, are left to be the only adults in the room. Yeah , the Republicans might eat more blame, questionably, but a lot of people would get hurt regardless.
It’s 2 months into a trump presidency. I don’t care how a shutdown reflects on the dnc. With all the dumb shit the gop does in the next 2 years this will be forgotten by next wednesday. The dnc’s polling is trash and their donors are fleeing, why even count on being able to legitimately win another election? God knows they haven’t changed a damn thing.
