What I was thinking is that Trump and Musk are very unpopular partly because they are firing all the state workers. Many veterans. If Democrats shut down the government, the blame will be reversed. Democrats will be blamed for putting state workers out of work.
And besides, shutting down the government is literally what Trump wants. He could claim the victim (as he loves to do) while getting exactly what he wants.
I have heard that government shutdowns are usually blamed on the party that forced the shutdown. Ie democrats in this scenario.
Now, we all believe Musk and Trump are a threat that needs to be stopped at all costs, so a government shutdown would be good. But how will the average American view it?
Honestly, your napoleon quote seemed very much in favor of not shutting the government down. Let Trump keep making mistakes.
Ok, I agree with you, but the majority of americas do not. Which is my point. Every time Republicans shut down the government using your logic, they were the ones that ended up suffering in the end.
You have no clue what the majority of Americans think. Shutdown or no shutdown any strife will be pinned to democrats. That’s how this works. Don’t play coy. Democrats do nothing but horde political capital. If they don’t ever spend it, it goes away.
What I’m looking at is in 4 years, will the GOP be able to claim they made the country better? I don’t care how it happens if this country doesn’t ‘feel’ like they are in a better place there is a reckoning coming for the GOP.
You think Chuck Schumer has no idea what the majority of Americans want? You think he doesn’t have databases of internal polling numbers that show him how people will likely react to this?
It’s weird cause that napoleon quote was so fitting for what I am saying. Let Trump keep making his own bed. The American people are reacting negatively towards Trump, not Democrats.
Anecdotally, my dad has been sending me anti Trump memes. He’s always been right wing, but not maga. So we haven’t talked politics in years and all of a sudden he is vocally anti trump.
The momentum is against Trump now. If Schumer shuts the government down there will be finger pointing on both sides. If he keeps it open and lets Trump keep fucking up, the people that have Trump the election will be less likely to show up in the midterms.
Anyway, we are just 2 random people that ultimately don’t know what we’re talking about. I’m just giving the case Schumer is likely considering.
What I was thinking is that Trump and Musk are very unpopular partly because they are firing all the state workers. Many veterans. If Democrats shut down the government, the blame will be reversed. Democrats will be blamed for putting state workers out of work.
And besides, shutting down the government is literally what Trump wants. He could claim the victim (as he loves to do) while getting exactly what he wants.
Is this similar to your point?
A total shutdown is far more likely to hurt trump and the Republicans. The Democrats by supporting this are letting certain Republicans oppose it.
I have heard that government shutdowns are usually blamed on the party that forced the shutdown. Ie democrats in this scenario.
Now, we all believe Musk and Trump are a threat that needs to be stopped at all costs, so a government shutdown would be good. But how will the average American view it?
Honestly, your napoleon quote seemed very much in favor of not shutting the government down. Let Trump keep making mistakes.
The gop are forcing the shutdown. The dems are the minority, the gop needs to negotiate.
Ok, I agree with you, but the majority of americas do not. Which is my point. Every time Republicans shut down the government using your logic, they were the ones that ended up suffering in the end.
You have no clue what the majority of Americans think. Shutdown or no shutdown any strife will be pinned to democrats. That’s how this works. Don’t play coy. Democrats do nothing but horde political capital. If they don’t ever spend it, it goes away.
What I’m looking at is in 4 years, will the GOP be able to claim they made the country better? I don’t care how it happens if this country doesn’t ‘feel’ like they are in a better place there is a reckoning coming for the GOP.
You think Chuck Schumer has no idea what the majority of Americans want? You think he doesn’t have databases of internal polling numbers that show him how people will likely react to this?
It’s weird cause that napoleon quote was so fitting for what I am saying. Let Trump keep making his own bed. The American people are reacting negatively towards Trump, not Democrats.
Anecdotally, my dad has been sending me anti Trump memes. He’s always been right wing, but not maga. So we haven’t talked politics in years and all of a sudden he is vocally anti trump.
The momentum is against Trump now. If Schumer shuts the government down there will be finger pointing on both sides. If he keeps it open and lets Trump keep fucking up, the people that have Trump the election will be less likely to show up in the midterms.
Anyway, we are just 2 random people that ultimately don’t know what we’re talking about. I’m just giving the case Schumer is likely considering.