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I can finally stop calling it GNU/Linux.
Rust/linuxRust
Lust
Oh good God, Linux is finally old enough to start rusting?! And on BOTH ENDS?
vigorously shakes can of WD-40
Wait is this their way to break compatibility with old binaries so that you’re forced to use snap?
They’re steadily climbing the test suit:
The uutils should be compatible so I don’t think so
I don’t think so unless they make their own rust core utils.
That’s extremely unexpected.
The GNU utils weren’t written by Canonical so they were doomed from the start.
Not to worry, they’ll ship 'em via snap.
Straight to jail.
I like snap, send me to camp.
Lol, I don’t hate snap, I also don’t need a sandboxed ls with a 30s startup time.
More likely they will make them dependent on snap so you can’t remove snap without breaking the system.
Oh god no
Why?
Because why? I can expect a very niche distro like Cachy do it but not a big project with a serious market share.
Canonical has a long history of doing wacky shit that nobody asked for though. Unity, upstart, snap, probably other things that I’m not thinking of
Unity was great, though. Ubuntu took a hit going back to customized gnome
Is there any actual benefit ?
Code written in Rust has been shown to have significantly fewer security vulnerabilities than code written in C. Distributions like Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates, so by switching to Rust-based utils, they can reduce their workload in the long run.
There’s probably some zero day exploit someone is holding onto until everything is rust and then, bam!. Yeah, that’s just silly to think. Just silly.
Just security and hype afaik.
No, it isn’t just hype. The hype is justified.
Outside of security you have some very really world benefits, like performance gains in various scenarios as well as lots more people willing to contribute and a much better type system (more maintainability).
It’s been proven faster. That’s all I personally know.
Nothing except for binary coding can be faster than C I think.
Rust is better for writing multithreaded applications which means that the small amount of utilities that can utilize parallelism receive a significant speedup. uutils multithreaded sort was apparently 6x faster than the GNU utils single threaded version.
P.S. I strongly doubt handwritten assembly is more efficient than modern C compilers.
My simple assembly program can rum circles around compilers. As long as something is small it is possible to optimize better than a C compiler.
Compilers have a lot of chalenges to even compile, let alone optimize. Just register allocation alone is a big problem. An inherent problem is that the compiler does not know what the program is supposed to do. Humans still write better assembly then compilers.
The one down arrow on the guy you are responding to is from me, just so everybody knows.
Fortran
I’m not sure why people are downvoting you, since Fortran is known to be extremely performant when dealing with multidimensional arrays.
Well the rust project is MIT licensed, so definitely not.
I thought MIT licensing was a good thing?? What am i missing??
The success of FOSS can in large part be attributed to copyleft licenses like the GPL. Without the protections of copyleft clauses, software just gets exploited by large corporation and end users are locked out. For just one example, if GNU software had used MIT, the entire free router movement (i.e ddwrt, openwrt and co.) would not exist today.
Archlinux usually is a bit more reasonable. I don’t understand the forcing. Just makes me love it (archlinux) more!
What about licences and FOSS?
According to the video it’s MIT licence, and they discuss the risk of such a licence vs coreutils usage of the GPL
This worries me indeed.
Why, for what purpose? Sounds very shady, at best.
Rust is good, rare Ubuntu W. Now stop with the forced use of snaps.
You think this is a win, but is just another step in the enshittification.
To bad no body really uses it (or at least they shouldn’t)
Ubuntu continues to show that it’s the absolute worst.
