Summary

Following a February 7th neo-Nazi rally, residents of Lincoln Heights, a majority-Black Ohio town, formed an armed Safety and Watch Program to protect against hate groups.

The rally, where participants waved swastikas and shouted slurs, received little police intervention, sparking fears of future threats when no arrests or identifications were made during the incident.

Volunteers now patrol bus stops and neighborhoods. “I’ve never felt safer as a Black man in my community,” said spokesperson Daronce Daniels.

The historically underserved and self-governing community shows strong support for the initiative with yard signs and sees this as a continuation of its legacy of self-reliance and community defense.

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      Forget it. If you can’t imagine the government rounding up all the stockpiles of weapons from right wingers around the country, you should be against any further gun control. Our enemies are already well armed. Don’t make it harder for the rest of us.

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    The rally, where participants waved swastikas

    Why isn’t this enough to shot them in the face?

    Millions died at war to stop swastika-waving scum, and the world united to never allow this to happen again, so why is American society suddenly ok with letting them terrorize communities?

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      Almost all of the WW2 vets are gone man. I worry that the far right resurgence around the world is being allowed to happen because people are simply ignorant to the horror of WW2. I remember talking to someone younger than me about Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust. He didn’t seem to think much of the Holocaust which I found disturbing. I started bringing up the numbers and I could see the shock in his face. He genuinely didn’t seem to grasp just how many people were murdered because of fascism.

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        Look at major wars and start going backwards in history… and then do the math of how long before that major war a previous major war was.

        WW2… 80-ish years ago from today Civil War… 1860s - about 80 or so years before that American Revolution - 1770s - about 80 to 90 years before that

        There seems to be a rough pattern indicating that once the generation scarred by a major war is gone… so seems to go the world order that was in place beforehand.

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          I get it in the past because the information was simply not accessible for most people. Nowadays there is no excuse for ignorance. It takes a 5 minute google search to get a taste of the inhumanity of history. Everyone should be willing to put in at least 5 minutes man.

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          History classes in the US are patriot washed to convince soon to be laborers that they’re living in the greatest country to ever possibly exist.

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    I think letting everybody have a gun is absolutely moronic. But if i was living in the US right now i would definitely be stocking up on assault rifles and ammo.

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      An assault rifle just tells everyone you can’t aim and are happy with indiscriminate targeting. They are fine when you are fighting 1000 of something, but there’s a reason the army sharpshooting badge doesn’t include burst fire (or didn’t thirty year’s ago, anyway).

      I’d recommend just about anything else for self defense, actually.

      I can’t because of some mental health concerns in my household (not the least of which, my own), but otherwise I’d have a revolver.

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        An assault rifle just tells everyone you can’t aim and are happy with indiscriminate targeting.

        Tell me you’ve never shot a gun, without telling me you’ve never shot a gun

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        This situation absolutely calls for rifIe usage. Tell us you know nothing about firearrns without telling us…

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        I’m not thinking about self defense against some burglar. I’m talking about self defense in the sense the US gun nuts have been talking about for decades. Now that tyranny has actually arrived, they’re very quiet all of a sudden. Who would have thought.

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          WWI more than a hundred years ago demonstrated conclusively the military worthlessness of a bunch of dudes armed with rifles, when faced with the real elements of state military power: artillery, tanks and airplanes. The US government has no fear of a bunch of fat old dudes with closets full of peashooters.

          • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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            Oh yes, on an open battlefield against declared combatants, absolutely. However, that’s not how it’s going to go down in the US. This is where we get to dredge up that old quote about a rifle behind every blade of grass.

            Take a look at any “anti-insurgency” operation in the last ~80 years or any situation that devolved into door-to-door warfare in a city full of both nongovernment combatants and also where basically every single civilian also hates you and your army. Except in our case about a third (32%) of those civilians are armed.

            Even if only half of those civilians are on our side, we’d outnumber the entirety of the US police and military forces combined by a little over 13 to 1. Nobody wants to fight a war of attrition and I’m not recommending one, but the fascists would have to achieve an unrealistically ludicrous k/d ratio to succeed. There’s no way around it other than this would outright require indiscriminately blowing up large sections of their own cities and infrastructure to get us, surely killing a handful of combatants each time but also taking out at least double their number in uninvolved civilians.

            That sort of thing does not tend to go any way towards making the rest of those civilians left get less involved.

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        [Assault rifles] are fine when you are fighting 1000 of something, but… I’d recommend just about anything else for self defense, actually.

        (Pointedly) Yeah, we know.

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    Getting organized is good.

    Individuals just yolo shooting Nazis and CEOs is kind of heart warming, but real power I think comes from organizing.

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    If the cops didn’t do shit when the Nazis came, why do they think the cops won’t fuck them over if they try to stop the Nazis?

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      Cowards tend to back down when confronted on equal grounds. This is essentially a resurgence of the Black Panther movement, which worked quite well doing the exact same thing.

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        I wonder if this will trigger republicans to enact gun laws

        Mulford Act A 1967 California bill to repeal the law that permitted citizens to carry loaded weapons in public places The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that prohibited public carrying of loaded firearms without a permit. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, and signed into law by governor of California Ronald Reagan, the bill was crafted with the goal of disarming members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods, in what would later be termed copwatching. Wikipedia

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            Or at least a bigger caliber. Why do all these would be assassin’s not spend and extra 200 dollars in range time. Meanwhile kennedy gets the fucking marine that bullseye’s womp bats with a garand.

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          An interesting distinction, so you could carry an unloaded rifle, and a magazine or ammunition in your pocket and be totally legal and still ready to defend yourself if needed

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        This is essentially a resurgence of the Black Panther movement, which worked quite well doing the exact same thing.

        Well, up until it got COINTELPRO’d and the cops assassinated Fred Hampton, at least.

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        He said he supports law enforcement, but that its handling of the Feb. 7 demonstration doesn’t give him faith that it will protect him in the future. For that reason, he says he’s proud of the neighborhood safety and watch program, even though he wishes it weren’t needed.

        Well for starters opposing the police instead of supporting them.

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          You gotta virtue signal sometimes. Purity testing every word people say will get the movement nowhere.

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    So the white sherif is more worried about black folks wearing masks and carry assault rifles than the neo Nazis wearing masks and carrying weapons? And not identifying them?

    I understand cops don’t want to arrest their friends, but this is pretty bad, even by those standards.