• debaser@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    They’ve also been banning accounts for liking comments about Green Mario doing nothing wrong. It’s about the closest thing to thought crime I’ve ever seen. (PS Green Mario did nothing wrong)

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      I don’t mean this as an attack at all, but isn’t calling Luigi “Green Mario” a way to comply with the wired reddit cencorship?

      We are on Lemmy, you can speak freely here.

      Or did something just go over my head?

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        Whether or not they were being ironic, we HAVE to stop capitulating to corporations deciding how we speak and what we can and can’t talk about. They successfully turned our own social messaging into a justification to block out conversations about issues that are actually affecting us.

        (No, to the chud about to cry about being censored for spreading misinformation about vaccines, that doesn’t go against corporate incentives, that goes against reason and knowledge, there’s a difference and if you can’t tell, you will when you get older.)

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          It’s actually pretty likely he’s not the guy. While they have a picture of him from a nearby hostel, the picture from cctv at the scene doesn’t match quite so well.

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            Im agree, but my gripes stem from the timing of how and when they picked him up. Rolling a nat 1 on disquise in a golden arches hundreds of miles away with all the evidence makes me think one of two things. 1) he isnt the guy, the NYPD needed their pound of flesh and just made it all up or 2) they are sure its him, but are unwilling to explain to the press how they know because big brother shit.

            In addition, with the mayor not shutting up about the investigation, that perp walk, and the media shrieking “oh no, he’s hot”, the is no way he is getting an unbiased jury in NYC. (I expect it to be the opposite, but thats the ACAB talking)

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          Fuck the opinions around here are unhinged.

          Why did you want that person killed?

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                The framing for this is that murder is bad; however there are exceptions to that. One such exception is that self defense of oneself or self defense of another provides a (morally and legally) justified basis for murder. If someone is trying to murder you or someone else, and you murder that person to prevent this, then you have engaged in self defense, which is justified.

                The argument is that there is insufficent evidence to demonstrate that Luigi was the person who committed the murder at issue. However, even if it can be proved that Luigi did in fact commit this murder, the argument is that it was justified as an act of self defense to protect himself/others from being killed by the decedent’s actions. This requires viewing violence as something that is structural and systemic, and not just direct and immediately physical. Under the former approach, Luigi engaged in self defense; under the latter, he did not.

                The American legal system generally only recognizes the latter as a valid legal defense. But this is irrelevant to the moral question of whether it was justified; and, even to the legal question, we can ask why our system does not recognize structural violence as criminal violence. The answer to that lies in who writes the laws, or, rather, who pays for the laws to be written. All nations have a ruling class who are the principal beneficiaries of the legal system; the US is no different

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                  See my problem with this argument, is if you’re all so determined for Luigi to have a fair trial to defend the position of self defence, shouldn’t that CEO have had a fair trial rather than be extra judicially killed too?

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      Here’s my new thing.

      All the people with critical thinking skills are leaving in droves. Leaving a massive bot farm authoritarian echo chamber in its wake.

      As far as they’re concerned we’re the problem and it solved itself.

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      My 15 year old account got banned last week, too. On one hand it kinda sucks, but on the other hand it feels good to get out of that site’s echo chamber. Reddit is really circling the drain.

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    This is the same kind of thing the 19 year old high school dropout with two kids he doesn’t have custody of posts on Facebook. Like “the devil whispered in my ear you can’t handle the storm and i said i am storm”

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    “I’m peaceful because I am capable of kicking your ass” has true mall ninja energy.

    “you studied humanity [and made friends] while I studied the blade”

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      I remember reading self-defense writings by Marc MacYoung (who is a fascist mind you, but he is very good at martial arts and understanding criminal dynamics) and the first ever time I heard the ‘better a monster who can control it, than a sheep who is not capable of violence’ or that effect, and he ripped that entire saying a new one. He said how once the violent beast in someone is built up, it simply won’t be easy to control and will fuck you up. There is simply no way around it. Criminals, abusers, and assholes whom people want nothing to do with and people who spend countless nights in jail for petty shit are all the actual ‘warriors in a garden’ come to life.

      Also the whole thing is shit. During ww1 and ww2 the US had a pathetic military at the start, but when the war got going they still outfought the Nazis and Imperial Japanese who were fully and completely into the whole permanent warrior mentality.

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    I was banned for harassment. I followed 6 accounts that posted tons of misinformation about elons nazi salute.

    They’d defend him at all cost, call everyone else sheep, “Roman salute”, he’s autistic, you’re such a n idiot for hating on him. Posted still frame images of anyone with raised hands and claimed them to be identical to nazi boy Elon.

    I got a notification every time they posted something to a sub I frequented. I would comment their recent post history and how their most extreme lies in defense of Elon.

    Reddit said that was considered harassment. Not what those accounts did, but my action to their posts and comments. Spez is such a fucking spineless cunt.

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    Well they do have a point. Having strength isn’t the same thing as using it. Most have the ability to beat another human to a pulp but instead use their words and other forms of conflict resolution. So to extend that logic one isn’t peaceful if one doesn’t have the power not to be; that is one isn’t restraining themselves from being violent and exercising benevolence and patience but rather being forced to be tolerant of others bullshit because they can’t do anything about it. It’s like is your chastity being tested more in a monestary or a whorehouse?

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      That’s how they get you, with a nugget of truth that in your context is reasonable and in theirs is explicitly unreasonable. The idea that one can’t choose peace if they have no choice is an old one and philosophers have been thinking about it for ages. There’s nothing wrong with the idea. What’s wrong is that in the context of the alt right they imagine themselves as John Rambo and use nonsense like this as wank material when they’re advocating for (or doing) violence. It’s a story they tell to infantilize and invalidate the left. If we’re all babies who couldn’t even choose violence if we wanted then they should make decisions for us, right? Including the decision to kill us.

      Funny thing is that the left got most of the rights and protections that people of every stripe benefit from through outright violence. Strikes and protests and all that are the compromise, remember.

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        Be as outraged as you want but at the end of the day social media is a business and they’ve chosen to no longer do business with you.

        If anything, be outraged at all the other shit the oligarchy are planning to do.

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    We have to stop being surprised at this behavior and start expecting it and rejecting it, on sight.

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    Someone should post that text to reddit, see what happens.

    Also, if you didn’t already think there was going to be violence, now you should.

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    Reddit is complicit with the facist takeover of wetsern democracy. I got banned from there for saying “the only good nazi is a dead nazi”

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    What a great fat wet lettuce of a human. He’s only capable of paying other people to do his dirty work.

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      No.

      Elon’s mother stopped him having that cage fight with Mark Zuckerberg because of his bad back. That wasn’t his fault.