I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the population has been sold the “India is a world-leader” myth and they think India is somehow leading the world in innovation, science and technology, human development etc.,

Now, I know for a fact that this is not true, when I try to gauge the perception of Indians abroad on Twitter, I get pretty negative results, but Twitter has nothing good to say about any group of people, so… I kinda wanted to know what you people though of India, don’t base it upon the etnic Indians who might be your friends and are decent people, but base it upon the news you read, the stories you hear from those Indians, etc.

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    I hope that India doesn’t make the same mistakes my county (America) made, such as trying to be a major international player while ignoring the people in need at home. They’re already going that way, but there’s time to change course.

    Also, I’d like them to fix their issues with Pakistan. That border was drawn by the British specifically to cause problems, and falling into that trap is letting the previous colonizers win.

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    I heard your country outpopulated both China and my own country: The United States.

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

    I also hear the same things about those countries in particular, especially on Twitter anyway.

    I don’t discuss world countries like that at all.

    I’m religious, so I only believe what my religion (Christianity) says about the world itself.

    I only believe what the Bible says only, but I do think it’s cool that your country is growing too.

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    It’s one of the World’s Great Civilizations, rather than just a country like Ireland is, it’s got more historical importance and influence.

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      hav darr yhou!? tbh I am working on improving my English much much more, I love the literary works and the poetry and I don’t want my English to be a constraint while trying to read those works which require a higher level of English knowledge.

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    Extremely dirty. Why does nobody care about all the shit and litter out there? What caused such ignorance to form?

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    It was the loudest and smelliest country I’ve ever been to.

    I’ve never seen a country where the cross-country sleeper train bathrooms had literal holes on the floor to shit and piss out of. You saw the tracks wizz below you from the toilets. No plumbing, just excrete onto the tracks.

    Chennai train station had the strongest most overwhelming diarrhea smell I ever experienced in my entire life.

    Dudes were creepy as hell. They see you’re white and then you’re swarmed everywhere you go. People trying to scam, trying to appoint themselves as your tour guide and won’t stop following you and trying to guide you to “the mall”. Calling you Harry Potter because you wear glasses. I couldn’t imagine what would happen if I was a woman there. I shudder to think.

    Crossing the street means walking into oncoming traffic and hoping and trusting everyone to just drive around you. Absolute fucking chaos. The people are not warm or friendly. They stare and get too close and touch you all the time. I kept having people touch my shoulders and try and touch my face when I was in public or queuing.

    I never ever want to return to India ever again. I don’t recommend any of my friends go there. There were very few positives about that trip other than it being an eye opening experience as to how over 1 billion humans on the planet live.

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      They stare and get too close and touch you all the time. I kept having people touch my shoulders and try and touch my face when I was in public or queuing

      This is more of a culture thing, I used to do it a lot when I was younger (it’s considered friendly)

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        Thank you for being genuinely interested in the opinion of others and for explaining culture differences.

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        To someone from my culture and to me when I was there, I hated it. It felt the absolute opposite of friendly. It felt predatory. I didn’t feel safe, I felt uncomfortable, I felt I was a freak and an oddity and it made me embarrassed to go anywhere. And this was with Indian-American guides who were familiar with which places to go to and which to avoid for tourists.

        I say this to you with no disrespect to you as a person. I’m just trying to state things without sugarcoating them. I appreciate you explaining the cultural perception.

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          It felt predatory. I didn’t feel safe, I felt uncomfortable, I felt I was a freak and an oddity

          I feel no connection to this culture whatsoever, I would happily follow your cultural norms if ever am lucky enough to visit the West, so you are not offending me, and I appreciate the honestly too :)

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    I wouldn’t view India as a world leader in any field but may be ignorant of some specialities? I know there is innovation but nothing major springs to mind. I’m being lazy though - that can likely be looked up and verified with stats.

    Technology wise, it appears to depend on western countries outsourcing work, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing but isn’t a good thing either since the draw to using India isn’t skill but cost. If the cost goes up, the west will stop outsourcing there and go to some other low cost base. (I’m not saying Indians aren’t skilled, just that’s not the primary reason why outsourcing there is happening, it’s all about exploitation from the west in search of more profit).

    Politically it seems to have been a dumpster fire for some time and looks like it’s trending towards more national extremism. Though that doesn’t seem to be unique at all - feels like the world is shifting to more fascist tendencies.

    The caste system is especially cruel and I regularly read stories that it’s going strong with no signs of stopping. I find that morally repugnant.

    The amount of scams against innocent people that originate from India is shocking, and it really appears as though corruption is so high that it’s not going to get better any time soon.

    Professionally, I deal with Indians semi regularly and it’s overall positive. Personally, I’ve come across a few assholes but the majority have been decent people and none of the issues above ever come up.

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    • large
    • tap water can be dirty
    • great curry
    • massive population
    • caste system
    • makes many YouTube tutorials
    • has some beef with Pakistan
    • likes to bob their heads
    • arranged marriages
    • spices
    • really hot and humid
    • as other people have mentioned, can be a bit unruly at times
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    Far too overpopulated in most parts, with all negative societal and environmental effects. Huge disparity between poor country and rich city. Has a space programme and developed industry and science. Calls itself the biggest democracy but isn’t one.

    Is this correct?

    We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others.

    Welll ok, i’m swiss and think so too. Probably most countries/cultures think this of themselves. I know from Manga that Japan and South Korea do too. And from Reddit/Lemmy for Americans.

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      Is this correct?

      Yeah, pretty much. I am not sure what you mean by it isn’t the biggest democracy, it kinda is the biggest democracy, but people place way too much emphasis on it. People don’t seem to have a mind of their own, they act in groups and are very tribal, so it’s probably not the most effective democracy.

      Probably most countries/cultures think this of themselves

      being accepting of your own nationality is good, but I have a problem with people being too proud of shitty things. We are too ok with who we are as a country and that’s not conducive to progress.

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        I am not sure what you mean by it isn’t the biggest democracy, it kinda is the biggest democracy

        Something i read forever ago, i think about Modi or some other people really deciding things? Not sure anymore. Well, looks like it’s wrong.

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    India gets my respect for its very long history, and the fact it invented buddhism.

    But Indian code is terrible. It degrades my respect for the country because it’s just consistently really bad.

    A lot of Indian code seems like someone tried to fix a broken car window by caulking a fish tank into place. You confront them and they’re like “What? It’s glass isn’t it? It’s exactly the same”

    Now I haven’t seen a lot of Indian code. I’ve seen the output of maybe ten different devs in India, and of that sample it’s all bad. Like really bad.

    They work hard and get shit done, but it’s always some kind of hacky kluge made from copy-pasted code.

    It’s unclean. It’s full of tech debt. It’s redundant. It’s often not even indented correctly.

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      Western countries employing Indian coders are generally looking for the cheapest coders they can find who speak passable English. All of that sounds like you got what you paid for.

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    I have never been to India and have no intention to travel there. My imagination is that it is overcrowded, the people there are mostly polite, hard working but not especially skilled. It is definitely a relatively poor country with a lot of inequality and crime.

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    The things that come to my mind are

    -The country has a set goal to improve in tech industry, aiming to rival big countries like China.

    -The people definetly know their spices. While they use it a bit too much at times, it certainly works well.

    -The country is overpopulated, leading to talented people having harder time to succeed.

    -If you’re watching an Indian man’s tutorial on any topic, you can assume it’ll work well.

    -It has a noticable split in religious beliefs.

    -fuck the remote scammers operating from Kolkata. The people in India also hate these people.

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      Can second the comment about tutorials. It’s amazing how your very very specific problem has a great tutorial, with the worst possible audio, that is perfectly solved by some random dude in his bedroom in India.

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    I know India has a booming tech sector and produces tons of great engineers which is cool. I hate their scam call centers its disgusting.

    I’ve never been but I’ve seen traveling vlogs and the news and it looks so unbelievably polluted and gross. With all the money and education I would expect basic infrastructure to be in every city. The country still has a lot of natural beauty and historical sites well preserved, big respect for that.

    As for generalizations about the people. I see a lot of videos of indians mobbing and doing crazy acts. When they are abroad they tend to mostly interact with other indians and shut others out but generally follow the law and arent violent. Women’s rights are pretty awful. Sellers are too pushy.

    In general my perception of Indians normally comes from the ones I’ve met who grew up in New Zealand and I have a good perception of them. When I have to exclude that and only think of India as a country my perception is very negative.

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    I don’t see much about India in the news. I have a friend who worked in a small town for a month during medical school and talks about the poverty and the number of people she saw sleeping on every flat surface in the city.

    I work in public education in the US. With Indian families I’ve seen two very different attitudes, which leads me to believe that culturally they either serve others or expect to be served. Most are kind, pleasant, and very appreciative of anything we do for their kids. Others expect us to bend every rule for them- start and end times, attendance, bus times/routes, etc. Our Indian families tend to carry and feed their kiddos longer than others and it seems like little kids (especially boys) ‘rule the roost’ as parents often say things like - he won’t go to bed, won’t stay at the table to eat, won’t get up in the morning, etc. You want to say, “He’s 5. You’re the mom. Set some rules.”

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      culturally they either serve others or expect to be served

      As an Indian it’s amazing how you perfectly hit the nail on the head considering how limited your exposure has been. Most Indians themselves never realize this tendency of theirs throughout their lives.

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    • Biggest democracy in the world
    • Wouldn’t consider it a world leader, to me it often seems more like they refuse to take a clear stance in world affairs, so they can continue positive relations with authoritarian countries like Russia
    • Rapid development, but still a lot of extreme poverty and inequality
    • Chaotic cities
    • Great food, especially for vegetarians like me
    • Religious extremism/conflicts seem prevalent