• FatCrab@lemmy.one
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      No. It is that Trump won with the support of over 70 million Americans. People are responsible for their choices. jfc

      Everyone saying Trumps totals didn’t change, yes, but their composition absolutely did change. But even that is besides the point. Even if they staged exactly the same, that’s still really fucking problematic and its absurd to give these people cover for being shitasses.

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        Trump didnt gain or loose many voters.

        Biden/Harris lost a lot of voters.

        So really the change between 2020 and 2024 is not a popularity increase for Trump, but a huge popularity loss for Biden/Harris.

        Now the question is, how did Biden/Harris manage to be so unpopular, that 12 million people decided to rather risk Trump winning, than vote for them again?

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          Answer : Russian propaganda about Harris supporting a genocide, while blatantly dodging the question of trumps desire for Israel to “finish the job”.

          People are gonna get exactly what they voted for (or really, failed to vote against) in the next 4 years.

  • inv3r510n@lemmy.world
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    If you voted for Harris I blame you for overlooking a fucking genocide.

    After all, trump supporters are “overlooking fascism” to punish the biden admin for the gaslighting over inflation.

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      Is Trump planning on helping Palestinians? It always seemed a strange argument to me to use against the Democrats since I’m pretty sure the right would have done the exact same in regards to Israel. Please prove me wrong, I’d love to see a silver lining to this situation.

      • inv3r510n@lemmy.world
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        Are biden/Harris planning on helping the Palestinians when they continue to fund and arm israel in the genocide?

        They’re the same.

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    6 months ago

    Then you should be fair and judge harris in a similar way. For supporting and being a part of genocide.

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        And it will be far far far worse.

        All of these “it’s genocide, it cannot get worse” fools are in for a rude awakening. Assuming they actually give a shit.

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      I absolutely would have judged her in a similar way had she won. But right now, she’s the Vice President, and has zero say (unless its to break a tie in the Senate) on this policy whatsoever.

      So why would I judge her for “supporting and being part of a genocide”? See how this works? You elect her first, then you pressure her to do the thing that you know for certain the other guy will never do.

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    I just feel like after a public rapist becomes president, twice, there’s no hope for Americans. It really is hopeless by now.

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        Still at it… She lost, dude. Go away.

        Yes, we were already hopeless, but we recognized that there was one option (out of the four: Trump, Harris, third party, or abstention) that provided a possible chance of ending the genocide, while the other three were a guarantee of not only the complete elimination of the Palestinian people, but the expansion into a much larger conflict across the Middle East and possibly the world.

        I hope that moral superiority makes you feel better when you see the what the difference between the Democrats and Republicans in Gaza (and beyond) will be. Assuming you actually give a shit.

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    Trump voters won’t care about any of that shit until it impacts them personally. My family is moving from Indiana to Maryland because of this election which is really going to obliterate grandparents’ time around our kids. Sucks for them we refuse to stay in a state that would actively destroy our kids’ education and wellbeing. They can shell out whatever massively inflated airfare it’ll cost them to come visit us in a place we can actually feel safe.

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      Wait until you’re the grandparent and see how it’s different then, and how would you’d think then

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        Maybe the grandparents shouldn’t vote to directly harm their own grandchildren, and actively destroy their futures. Just a thought.

    • شاهد على إبادة@lemm.ee
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      Genocide is a redline for me, though I understand why to many Harris voters the mass slaughter of people halfway across the world is a non-issue.

      Edit: “If you were able to overlook a genocide and cast a vote for Harris, you already know how a conservative was able to overlook Trump’s extremism and vote for him.” – Historian Robin D.G. Kelley

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        Of course it’s a fucking issue! Do you think it will be better now that Netanyahu got the person be wanted in the white house?! My god how short sighted are you!

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    I judge you for your literal inability to detect hostility and scams.

    We have SO MUCH EVIDENCE that Trump is a Russian asset who Russia has Kompromat on (see American Kompromat by Unger). We are at war with Russia and previously were at war with them for decades. And we don’t think Putin wants revenge? Look at what happened to Navalny.

    Everything Trump wants is deemed harmful by experts. Almost as if he’s a foreign fucking asset harming the US as much as possible in a proxy war. He has a history of violence, abuse, and grifting. How can people be so naive? Literal wolf in wolf’s clothing with neon signs saying “I’m a wolf and I will eat you.”