“I’m a republican, and I will consistently, and wrongly, vote in what I think are the best interests of my wallet while paying lip service to liberal social ideals. “
As someone who said this when they were younger
“Uninformed idiot”
now that I’m older I’m fully liberal since i am more informed.
But don’t you know? YoU’Ll gEt mOrE cOnSeRvAtIvE aS yOu AgE! Biggest fucking lie of my life.
Same here.
Screaming from the far left, there are a lot of people in scarcity or precairity in our society, a society that would collapse if they all suddenly fell incapacitated from their want.
It is our fucking duty as fellow citizens to stabilize them.
Conservatism at its core is ignoring their need in the name of tradition. To the ninth charnel circle of Hell with that.
They don’t want to pay money for social spending they don’t realize they benefit from while wearing the costume of an ally.
I would think they want to not get caught up in a culture war, but also don’t want a ton of government programs and costs and don’t want to incur debt.
But people have no idea what anything means anymore and they just use words, like woke, and they use them wrong. So who even knows if people are talking about the same thing.
If they’re American I would point out that they have no representation for their conservative views because there is no fiscally conservative party in the United States.
I always just reference this article:
https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225
And say the modern Republican party started with Nixon.
So many people with such brutal takes on it – helps to quantify who the audience is on lemmy I guess.
Socially liberal fiscally conservative, to me at least, means that the person is in favour of equality in the sense of equality of treatment from the government, but is not in favour of additional big spending projects to try and have equality of opportunity. They’re pro-choice, but likely against the government funnelling money into providing abortions for women (so abortions available, but not gov subsidized). They’re pro-trans rights in terms of being fine with whoever doing whatever they want with their body/partners of choice, but against government paying for trans-specific gender affirming procedures and parades to highlight those groups. They’re in favour of things like universal medicare/dental care, because those programs are shown to be a net benefit fiscally and socially.
In general, they support socially progressive ideas, so long as they’re fiscally costed out and beneficial to the public purse. They’re against increased government spending / reach, preferring ‘small government’, with the social components placed more on individuals to fund directly.
They’re in favour of things like universal medicare/dental care, because those programs are shown to be a net benefit fiscally and socially.
I’ve never met someone who was “socially liberal fiscally conservative” who believed this.
They’re usually pro good things, but they don’t want to pay for them, so they’re not actually pro those things at all.
“Small government” and “private individuals will handle it” typically means it just won’t happen.
For starters, the question wasn’t, as far as I know, asking how the ideology / stance fairs in terms of implementation / reality. Like you can give a description of what a communist believes, without having to try and explain Communist Russia / China.
In terms of medicare/dental care, yes, there are soc lib fisc con people that do believe that. Likely not people in the USA, where everything skews right wing – their soc lib is more like “I have a black friend! I’m not racist!”. In more sane countries, there are a good number of people who fall into that ideological mindset, who do support public utilities/health initiatives – it’s pretty common here in Canada, based on people I’ve spoken with.
Like a soc lib fisc con person I know, has previously suggested that we ought to change how roads / cars are handled – arguing that cities shouldn’t have anywhere near as many cars, and that common “paved” roads should be essentially relegated to highways/freeways due to the cost and ecological impact. In their take, city budgets are often bloated by road repair costs due to the over-engineering of what’s required for regular residential activity. Using other road materials would dramatically increase sustainability – and even if it results in more ‘maintenance’ cost/road tolls for car users who still insist on using cars, that’s up to the consumer. I don’t know if they were talking nonsense, but that’s the sort of thing I sometimes hear people in the soc lib fisc con camp say.
I suppose you this touches on how I’m in the US, where everything is skewed towards insane nonsense. It would be extremely unusual to find a conservative of any sort here that would support anything remotely anti-car, for example. Even if it would save money.
Just buncha utter bollocks
It means “i’m not a racist, but i still prefer billionaires getting all the money”
As someone who calls himself that:
“I am a liberal but the liberal want to go after the upper middle class instead of after the top 0.1%”
P.S: I’m from Switzerland, so don’t tell me about Trump. I knoe he’s a fascist and I would have voted against him. But here in Switzerland we have more moderate choices.
“I judge the parties on their rhetoric instead of their record.”
“Trump is going to pivot any day now!”
“I don’t hate you because you’re a POC, a woman, or queer. I hate you because you’re poor.”
“I’m a prick but I also like to smoke weed”
“I’m a dumb cunt”
“I’m a liar, pretending to be a libertarian. Fund the police so they can shut down the protests for things I don’t like.”
They believe in the social policies of the Democrats and the financial policies of conservatives?
I mean I would ask follow up questions but at face value that would be what they meant no?
The democrats are fiscally conservative. The GOP believes in budget unbalancing tax cuts and are fiscally liberal.
So the person who says what’s in the post title is probably just a centrist Democrat. Which explains why they’re getting so much hate here.
