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    Early warning signs of fascism:

    1.) Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

    2.) Disdain for the importance of human rights

    3.) Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

    4.) The supremacy of the military/avid militarism

    5.) Rampant sexism

    6.) A controlled mass media

    7.) Obsession with national security

    8.) Religion and ruling elite tied together

    9.) Power of corporations protected

    10.) Power of labor suppressed or eliminated

    11.) Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

    12.) Obsession with crime and punishment

    13.) Rampant cronyism and corruption

    14.) Fraudulent elections

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      so you mean to tell me my country was fascist all along

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        The Democrats were less obvious but still bow down to corporations.

        "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini.

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          yeah but what does that guy know about fascism? i mean, if we can just quote anybody with a funny name and pretend it’s got all this weight behind it, you can make just about any statement you want that way, if you get your friend with a funny name to repeat it first.

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          Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

          i’m struggling to think of a single capitalist state i have some knowledge of that doesn’t work like this. there are probably a few of them…?

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            Merger is the key word.

            Corporates do have some power, to greater or lesser degrees, in most government systems. But very few have the level of control over writing laws and paying politicians that the USA has.

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                  oh we had a literal fascist as our head of state very recently, and things point to this happening again. i think this is a big sign lololol

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          Freedom of the Press still exist

          lol. Gotta remember freedom means dollars and press means buying politicians.

          Not to mention the many actual journalists murdered by empire. There have been hundreds in palestine alone… Plus prisoners like chelsea manning, etc.

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        It’s a sliding scale and it’s recently descended into unambiguously facist territory.

        Its like diagnosing a disease: just one symptom isn’t conclusive, but when you have all the known symptoms you can be pretty sure what it is.

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        USA was founded by slavers who were the pre-cursors to fascism.

        USA was fascist from inception even before fascism.

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    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a socialist.
    
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a trade unionist.
    
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a Jew.
    
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
    
    • Martin Niemöller

    Just in case people don’t know the original.

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      That’s not the original.
      Hint: any version that doesn’t mention “communists” is “filtered”.

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        Good call, I didn’t know that. This is the original

        Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
        habe ich geschwiegen,
        ich war ja kein Kommunist.
        
        Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
        habe ich geschwiegen,
        ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
        
        Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
        habe ich geschwiegen,
        ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
        
        Als sie mich holten,
        gab es keinen mehr,
        der protestieren konnte.
        

        It’s not straight forward to translate, because there is no active verb in English for “to remain silent”.

        When the Nazis came and took the communists 
        I remained silent
        Since I wasn't a communist.
        
        When they imprisoned the social democrats 
        I remained silent
        Since I wasn't a social democrat.
        
        When they took the trade unionists 
        I remained silent
        Since I wasn't a trade unionist.
        
        When they took me
        There was no one left
        Who could protest. 
        
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            Good idea, but I think “remain silent” applies a bit more generally. The phrase “you have the right to remain silent” is always translated to “sie haben das Recht zu schweigen”. So I went with that.

            (“schweigen” being the verb I’m looking for here)

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              I think I’d say ‘I kept silent’ as more common or ‘I kept quiet’, probably an even more common phrase. ‘Kept’ would be slightly more ‘active’ than remained I think.

              But “remain” does some nice extra poetic work here; it foreshadows another usage of [narrator’s] “remains” - the corpse or ashes or whatever lifeless material is left after their death.

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        Good point. I forgot about the communist part and only copied the first one on wiki due to laziness. Thanks for reminding me.

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            Wikipedia is not an entity, it’s a collective. You, personally, can fix whatever is incorrect there. And some would say, should.

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      okay but see I’m not a socialist or a trade unionist or a jew or a dude named martin. so I’m fine. that poem is so outdated. who names their kid martin anymore?

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        You will just get to live in poverty, not have any social mobility, put your family in debt for generations over a work injury and lose your job over it, won’t get to vote, will get sent to death camp for a joke in a comment. Being inconvenienced and poor for a bit in order to fix your country is a hell lot convenient, safer and cheaper than spending rest of your life there.

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        For solidarity, open the door, take off your pyjamas, go out and close the door. Sacrifice yourself for solidarity because that is solidarity and if everyone does this, the problem is solved! /s

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            Sure. Politely ask the other person if they could show solidarity and do so.

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                Simply hang up a sign “All persons without 0-∞ meters distance between each other are woke.”

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                  so, the sign. do I have to like… make the sign? and hanging up. my windows are really bright right now. do I have to, like, stick it up with something and look outside with the curtains parted? because, like… eww.

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      Well, I look at this way.

      Trump is going to fuck me and my family no matter what.

      The only way Trump is not going to fuck you is if you make over $250k a year, are a white male adult, and are willing to kiss the ring.

      Eventually I will be on that list of people to oppress/disappear because of who I am, not what I’ve done or will do. It’s more than likely you or your family members will be too.

      Because while they start with the outspoken, when opposition is silenced, they will move on to crush the meek with a horrible glee. In the end, it won’t matter one whit to them what you do or say unless it gets in their way - it’s about what they want to do to you.

      So let your inner Luigi roar. They’re coming for us anyway. You have a chance to speak NOW. Use it. They haven’t won yet, and they won’t if enough of us speak out.

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      As awful as he is, I think he serves a good example of the opposite being true. It can serve as a warning.

      “If we give any President this authority, someone like Donald Trump could use it if they ever got elected.”

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    Trump’s implied support for Erdogan is also considered to be one of the reasons why Erdogan’s trying this hard to keep himself as the leader even though protests are riling up all around the country. Speak out for us too.

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      I can’t find a site that shows where protests will be held, last I attended was an entire week ago

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        Not buying American products. Supporting political candidates that support Ukraine (that’s more relevant in other countries, in the UK support for Ukraine is pretty much universal even in the extreme right-wing parties, UK doesn’t like Russia).

        Presumably you want me to charge the Bastille though.

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          So you’ve boycutted Coca Cola, and vote how you would’ve anyway.

          You are making my point for me.

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            You’re right I should be a rude prick online that’ll really help.

            So what radical actions are you taking comrade sarcastic dick?

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              First one, and this one is very important: be violent towards Nazis. If someone in your near vicinity talks nazi trash, punch them in their fucking faces. We will not tolerate their bullshit in our streets.

              Secondly, keep yourself informed, to help keeping other people informed. Not about what the Trump governments latest distractions are, but about stuff like special elections, where Democrats have a chance of taking Republican seats. They just flipped a historically unopposed conservative Senate seat to be democrat.

              And third, campaign for progressives who are trying to unseat democrats in America. I might never even set foot in America myself, but the consequences worldwide if trump successfully turns America fascist are insane.

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                Good for you, but as I already said I’m not American, I’m not in America, so I can’t vote in your elections and I can’t talk to republican voters because there aren’t any here. There are plenty of right-wing voters in the UK but they have completely different priorities to US Republicans, they’re not equivalent.

                So what else can I do being so remote?

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      yes. some of us are working hard to bring about the revolution.

      we simply have to post more, until our radio shell becomes so vile that the first alien linguists to translate our signals go mad from the revelation, and eventually they’ll send us some of their fully automated gay luxury space communism just to make it stop. post-posadists unite, comrade! if we just complain loud enough, let the fascism keep working, and make enough absurdly empty symbolic gestures; everything will get better!

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    You need to do more than speak out though. We’ve been speaking out about Trump for a decade and he’s was reflected and is currently breaking America to rebuild it into some kind of dictatorship.

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    I’ve said this in another post, and I’ll say it again.

    Where are the resources? Where are the leaders? Where are the groups?

    People are scrambling right now because there are a million people screaming and no one leading nor taking direction. We need courage, focus, and precision to win but everyone is acting spineless, scattered, and aloof.

    We need every single person online using TOR and/or a VPN. We need an underground railroad. We need protocol to fight against ICE raids. We need places to find weapons (yes, even in blue states because a lot of people still don’t own). And most importantly, as our greatest civil disobedience, we need to stop paying federal taxes. I would even like to go as far as a general strike.

    So how are we going to get this and more together? Or are we instead going to sit and cry about this?

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      I’m donating to Sanders, I donated before and volunteered before for his presidential runs. He’s not perfect by any means but I’m putting money I barely have there. I want to volunteer again, but I’d also look at AOC for organizing and raising money she is very capable. If you want to cross the line to real effort, there’s some good CIA booklets you can find online about simple sabotage. It’s worth looking into.