• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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      27 days ago

      He really does think the EU is a country. I’m not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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        27 days ago

        America was killed, by Americans, in a democratic election. And so many are still fondling the corpse, writhing with carrion bugs, and pretending it’s still alive.

      • LupusBlackfur@lemmy.world
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        27 days ago

        Oh…

        I can guaran-fucking-tee you my opinion of so-called “Americans” will never recover…

        I’m more concerned if the country is ever able to recover.

        FUCK!! IT’S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS!!

        Much worse is yet to be realized.

        And, yes, I’m a suitably embarrassed US’ian.

        🙄 🤦‍♀️

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        Twice. They did it twice.

        You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the ‘real politicians’ a scare to get them back in line. However that’s a lot of ‘almost’ and ‘maybe’.

        But the second time, that’s fucking unforgivable.

      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~67% voted third party or not at all.

        Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

        That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

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          27 days ago

          As a resident of a Continental Country that is not the US, we’ve pretty much always seen Europe as a single, monolithic thing. It’s hard for us to grasp how something like France, which is just slightly bigger than Minas Gerais, 4th largest state of Brazil, is a completely separate thing from the rest.

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            Honestly, that just seems like ignorance. It’s like you don’t know that France likes wine and Germany drinks beer. Or that the two were on opposite sides of two world wars.

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              It’s like you don’t know that Rio Grande do Sul and São Paulo were on opposite sides of the Farrapos war or Rio Grande do Sul likes wine and São Paulo drinks more beer.

              Regional cultural differences and history don’t come into question when it comes to how one country perceives others in the side of the world, so please, refrain from those simplistic ad-hominem arguments.

        • WideEyedStupid@lemmy.world
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          I was going to say this. Trump thinks the EU already is what I wish it will become.

          Maybe his efforts will push us further into that direction though?

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            One of the good things to come from this is an end to the hegemony of the US. Now I have to hope the rest of the world will choose to be better as a result of it.

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                While I’m sure it will at least partially fill the vacuum left by the US, it won’t have the “soft power” the US did over the entire Western world.

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                  If the US keeps trying this trade war trick, and they’ll end up realising that China is where stuff is made.

                  I’m Norwegian and they seem to have a bunch of soft power here by saying “if you do that, we won’t buy your salmon anymore.” Time’ll show, I guess.

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          It’s an economic zone made up of smaller countries, and functionality structured in a completely different way the US is regarding the fed vs the states. That fact the US president is referring to a continent as a country is unbelievably embarrassing.

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      “Don’t make me hit you harder.”

      Abusive relationships are the only kind Trump knows how to have.

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        He’s a socially stunted bully (wait is that repeating myself?, not sure up to a certain age anyways) so yes, I think one of most satisfying wishes to make these days would be to give Trump self awareness and empathy.

        Quick edit, like in the 90s Bedazzled movie with Hurley and Fraser where he asks to be sensitive.

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      With friends like these…

      Like seriously, you can’t make this stuff up, folks! The schoolyard bully who beats you up after class and continues to insist that he’s your best friend! Not only that, he tells all the teachers that actually he’s the victim and you’re the bully!

      How many of you out there knew someone like that? Made you count down the days until you were outta there for good so you’d never have to see his face again! I wish we (Canadians) could get the hell out of this toxic high school we’ve suddenly found ourselves in…

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      What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

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        America is the largest consumer state on planet earth. A huge amount of foreign economies rely heavily on export to the United States and tariffs can do a LOT of damage. Trump knows these tariffs are a huge bargaining chip, but it’s the type of chip you can only use to this degree once. And he’s cashing it in for… his own political clout. The natural response to this that we’re already seeing the beginning of, is countries restructuring their industry to be less reliant on the U.S. which will ultimately do far more damage to the U.S. than the U.S. can do to other countries. And once they’ve all done that, there won’t be a good reason to ramp that trade up again.

        As an American this is going to suck a lot for us, but right now everything Trump is doing sucks for us. The shame of it is that no matter how bad it gets, I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it. What other option have they been given?

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          I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it.

          If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock. Hopefully they’ll get in the groove of the new world order without the US sooner rather than later.

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            If anything, they haven’t condemned our fascist government enough. I think they’re still largely in shock.

            There’s no sense in pointless bluster. Much is happening behind the scenes.

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        He thinks our economy is strong enough to stand on its own and that’s absolutely ridiculous.

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        From the same supporters who will shoot themselves in the foot to own the libs, this is at a much larger level.

        Also, a classic facist move. Get everyone to turn on you, then propagate “the world is out to get us”, and once you instill that mentality on the people, it’s easier for people to believe we’re the victims, and we’re fighting for our liberation.

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        If you’re trying to build domestic manufacturing capacity in a specific industry in which many other countries are competitive, placing tariffs on foreign products in that specific sector can encourage people to buy local until your manufacturers are competitive in the global market.

        Similarly, if a foreign country is flooding your market with an excess of some product (dumping) and it’s depressing the price of that product and putting your domestic manufacturers out of business, tariffs can help protect them while you work through treaty processes like WTO complaints.

        Trump is doing neither of those things. Blanket tariffs are more likely to collapse your economy than grow it (see: Smoot-Hawley). His tariffs on specific products like steel and aluminium are unlikely to grow American manufacturing capacity in those sectors. Modernizing steel manufacturing in the US would take decades. Aluminum smelting is really energy intensive, so US aluminium producers can’t compete very well with Canadian aluminum producers because Canadian producers have access to cheap and plentiful hydro-electric power. During his last term, steel and aluminium smelting capacity in the US actually shrank and the higher costs of materials in downstream manufacturing put hundreds of thousands of people out of work.