• diffusive@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    The chat space is problematic.

    • There are a lot of apps that don’t encrypt at all (e.g. Google chat, discord, etc)
    • There are apps that encrypt but they are subject to jurisdictions that can or may in the future force backdoors (e.g., Chinese apps, possibly telegram, possibly US apps in the future)
    • There are apps that encrypt, are in countries that are privacy focused but are not for free (e.g., threema)

    This contributes to a fragmentation that makes WhatsApp the app that-you-must-have

    Sure it is supposedly encrypted but I would not bet my money that is without back doors

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          25 days ago

          That’s definitely part of it, but I think a bigger contributor is iMessage. iPhones have a dominant market share in the US and iMessage has been the gold standard for a long time and it doesn’t even use the SMS system.

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            25 days ago

            It is elsewhere now it’s just in the past it used to be stupidly expensive to send SMS.

            It’s wjere text speak came from, I believe they used to actually charge by the character so if you wanted to tell somebody you’ll “be at the train station in 15 minutes” that’s quite a lot of characters, so that became “@ stn n 15” which is almost incomprehensible these days.

            When WhatsApp became available everybody went over because suddenly you could communicate like humans, after the phone company’s realized that the jig was up they lowered text prices but by that point everyone had gotten used to just using WhatsApp.

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              25 days ago

              I remember my parents flipping shit over a $0.50 fee for a handfull of messages before text was unlimited.

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              25 days ago

              Text speak mostly came from typing on dumb phone number pads to enter text. Like if you wanted to type “hi” you would have to enter “4-4 pause 4-4-4” As you might expect 5 putting presses with a pause between some of them just to say “hi” got painful. Thus the shortening.

              Text messages were always charged per message. But each message was limited to 160 ascii characters or less if you were using other encodings. You could send 1 character or 160 characters but it cost 20 cents (at least where I grew up) either way.

              This is all separate from l33t speak which is a whole different thing.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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              25 days ago

              That is if you stay within one country. I still get some insane charges if I text someone 60 kilometers away because it’s international.

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      25 days ago

      Whatsapp to messengers is what internet explorer was to browsers lol. Slow, bloated, unfree, universally hated, but still somehow universally used

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        25 days ago

        I mean honestly, feature wise, it’s pretty good in my opinion. It has some very useful features Signal lacks (e.g. live location sharing) and it’s not slow or badly designed in my opinion.

        I still prefer Signal since I don’t like Facebook, but realistically speaking WhatsApp is pretty good.