All because the rich must always steal from the poor.
  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    25 days ago

    Its been over since before carlin did his famous bit. Whats happening now is like the smell that lets everyon know that the neighbor no ones seen in weeks died in their house a month ago.

  • Verdant Banana@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    25 days ago

    Particularly from 1981 on, through corporate lobbyists and the merging of various ideological perspectives from both the Republican and Democratic parties, the new lower tax system for the wealthy and for corporations took shape.

    Can’t vote this away

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    All this bullshit about this or that is officially dead or over in America… Democracy, the American Dream, leader of the free world etc. None of that shit was ever true. Yes, Trump is a particularly unvarnished avatar or the US, but stop pretending we were ever what the propaganda told us we were.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      24 days ago

      The qons always wanted this, that much is true. And so they were always a dark undercurrent in America and often got their way.

      But the rest of us could at least work to aspire to higher ideals that America is supposed to represent. With the qons in charge now, they seem to have no real agenda other than make a bunch more money for the broligarchs and maximize unhappiness for everyone else - cruelty is the point.

      But that doesn’t mean America and Americans should not realize we used to do better and we should continue to aspire to be better. Saying “yeah, but America was always shit” is not only not really truthful (but I realize it is a fashionable thing to say with a certain set), it’s demoralizing.

      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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        24 days ago

        I think it is truthful, and it’s important to be honest about it-- not least if you genuinely want a way out of Trumpism. Pretending that the Democrats aren’t a big part of the story of how we got here is dangerous. We need to come to terms with our fundamental issues before we’re able to start moving in the right direction.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    It’s been over for a while. Just took people a while to realize it and admit it. Well, unless you’re republican. The American Dream is still alive. Y’know, the one where a fake billionaire felon can become prez and wreck the country while hiring a billionaire racist foreigner to fuck everything up the felon doesn’t understand. Which is pretty much everything.

  • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
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    25 days ago

    Pretty sure white people are still making money on killing babies abroad. Seems like the American Dream is still around.

  • don@lemm.ee
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    25 days ago

    It was officially over quite a long time ago. Are you just now waking up?

    • BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      25 days ago

      George Carlin said “It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it” 20 years ago. This is how America has always been, people are only now starting to wake up to that.

      • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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        25 days ago

        It wasn’t always like this, but it has been for a long time, and it has been my entire lifetime for certain.

          • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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            25 days ago

            Yeah I mean I don’t think it was intended for anyone other than white men, but we did build a middle class before destroying it with neoliberal garbage politics and global capitalism shortly thereafter.

    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      25 days ago

      Yes but I think we are just now reaching a critical mass of people for whom it is over but wasn’t for their parents. I believe that’s the most important part, it’s easy to accept that other people are just worse off than you. It’s a lot harder for people to accept being worse off than their parents.

  • Wren@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    “Dream”?

    Let’s not kid ourselves, it is and always has been an anxiety driven nightmare for anyone that isn’t white and male.

    • Gointhefridge@lemm.ee
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      24 days ago

      It was for white middle class Americans. That’s why they’re so angry now, they can’t guarantee their hierarchical standing so they need to try and pull every other denomination down.

  • AttackBunny@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    If you were born after like 1980 it’s been pretty apparent that we were all fucking lied to. Go to school, be a good person, try hard, go to college and then you’ll be set for life. What a fucking joke.

      • HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        24 days ago

        Why 1980?

        Because Reagan is largely pointed to as the most accelerative element leading to the fallout which we are dealing with today.

        I’d argue it’s pretty much everything after FDR swapped his VP Henry Wallace (who wanted to pass civil rights legislation in the 1940s) for Harry Truman (who instead dropped nukes on Japan) and has been downhill ever since… but there’s a lot of room for nuance.