Ya man. That’s pretty much it. Destruction of already paid for and profited on privet property is absolutely pointless.
If you wanna hit these guys hard, people like Elon and his billionair ilk. Take they’re money. That’s what they fight for anyway, that’s all they want and it’s their most greatest fear.
Take their money give them a menial job somewhere getting paid $15.45 an hour. See how they like it.
I dont think its the best way to get at their money but if they continue to get vandalized and ppl either sell them (flooding used market) or don’t buy them, the stock price might return to normal amount. I’m not advocating for that but it seems like a solution
Any alternative solutions for affecting a wealthy persons money?
Billionaires have to be fought in their wallets. Use their precious “free market” against them.
So far, Tesla stock is down about 60%, sales are tanking, the company image and brand is badly damaged,
recovery seems far away, and frankly bankruptcy seems closer. If Tesla dies, Musk loses billions, AND his most lucrative division.
It will also hurt the wallets of many other Sociopathic Oligarchs, who are also heavily invested in Tesla. Destroy a few other companies like that, and they may start to listen a bit harder.
I think fighting billionaires in their wallets is the exact wrong way because they have so much money it doesn’t even affect their personal life when they lose 90% or more of their wealth.
Musk already is in a position of power which no money of the world can (or maybe should) buy you. So even if he loses all his money he will still have that power and continue to abuse it.
They dont think about money like we do. I remember a situation in a TV show where a successful actor lost half his money to a crooked financial advisor, and he was commiserating with his normal friends.
“I lost $30 million!”
“Wow, thats awful, how much of your money was that?”
“About 50%.”
“So you still have $30 million?”
“Yeah, but I lost $30 million.”
“Yeah, but you still have $30 million!”
“Yeah, but I LOST $30 million!”
Rich people often focus on how much they DON’T have, rather than how much they do have. That’s why they are always grasping for more, despite having no use for it at all. It’s a mental illness like hoarding, except it’s money instead of old newspapers or cats.
When a Sociopathic Oligarch like The MuskRat loses half his fortune, he isn’t thinking “Who cares? I’ve still got more than I’ll ever need.” All they can think about is how much they lost. This Tesla crash will haunt him until the day he dies, even if it recovers, which I increasingly doubt it will. 50/50 it ends in bankruptcy within a couple of years.
That’s why we should double and triple down and make it really hurt. I’ve taken to actually asking Tesla owners what made them turn into a Nazi. I don’t bother to stand around waiting for an answer, I don’t care. I just want them to hear how people are judging them harshly for their choice of vehicle.
You know in those movies where the hero has to beat the living hell from a thousand grunts before they are able to get at the boss? And you don’t feel too bad for the grunts, even though they’re not millionaires or the guys doing the big evil stuff, because they chose to align themselves with a villain like the boss?
It’s kind of like that. If people don’t want to own a Tesla because they’ll be targeted for aligning themselves with Musk, Tesla’s stock goes down, which hurts the boss.
I’m not saying I support it (and I’m not saying I don’t), but saying that this is hurting the Working Class and not the real Bad Guy is missing the point.
Just to inform you: most people don’t care about the owner of their car brand. Do you know the owner of most, Toyota shares (without looking it up) ? People see Tesla, which is the most well known electric car brand, the Jones have one too, let’s buy one.
I think you’re missing the point. Personally, when I watch those movies, I think about whether the guard who just got turned into a parapalegic was just an ex-military guy who picked up a security job. For that matter, I wonder about how many people joined the German military in 1932, with no idea what their country would become. They still had to be fought through to affect the leader. Yes, any given grunt, any given infantry, is hurt considerably more than the big fish, but the way of the world is that a lot of little fish must suffer before the big fish feels it.
Not every big fish can be luigi-ed. Some have a security detail.
Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.
Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.
Counterpoint: We’ve known how fucked up he is for years. It was just hero worshipping suckers who bought into his bullshit. Anyone with half a brain recognized him for exactly what he always has been.
Nah. Musk was calling that rescue diver saving kids trapped in cave a pedo before the model 3 came out. It was clear, public knowledge that he was a douchebag very early on.
Yeah but I kind of expect every CEO to be on that level of douchebaggery. We wouldn’t be able to buy everything if that’s the bar, because the CEO of every company is on that level.
Also we can’t expect everyone to be aware of that story.
It’s when he bought Twitter and started going on about woke mind virus that he revealed himself as a bigger douche than most CEOs.
Yeah, the twitter debacle fucking broke him I wonder if there’s an alternative timeline where he weaseled out of having to buy it and decided to calm down and shut the fuck up afterwards.
Maybe this is the timeline where he eats enough drugs to explode his own heart on a livestream.
EVERY big company CEO is a piece of shit. They just keep it behind closed doors. Fuckface decided to do it in the open.
You probably own clothes right now made by kids in Pakistan. How would you feel if someone set them on fire while you were wearing them?
You gonna slap the food out of people’s mouths because they shop at Walmart?
Wanna kick some homeless dude for wearing a donated Tesla T-shirt?
At some point you gotta realize everyone is a victim of capitalism and punishing them for being part of the system they’re born into is the opposite of how you get them to look around and wake up.
If they really want catharsis they’d go after Tesla showrooms. Musk actually owns those, so you’ll actually be hurting his bottom line directly, instead of fucking over someone who bought the only car you could even get during the pandemic.
Really, if you’re pissed at him fuck with him, not some random with a car payment who probably hates him as much as you do.
(I really want to say cybertrucks are fair game, but that’s the goblin talking, and you really shouldn’t listen to the goblin. If your goal is accelerationism, then we have nothing to say to each other)
Being unaware doesn’t protect from consequences. Even morally, in a democracy, it’s up to the people to be informed. Buying decisions drive policy. It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed. This alone should start a general strike.
With all the things that are looming, imagine the price you are going to pay because you were not online enough.
Just if someone bought a Tesla as their personal vehicle 10 years ago because they wanted an environmentally friendly car - before we knew what an asshole Musk was - I don’t think they deserve to have their personal property damaged/destroyed.
Musk is the one hurting Tesla owners with his policies. Yes tesla owners are collateral damage, but the US government cares very little about collateral damage.
Agree: US Government doesn’t care about collateral damage
I just would encourage folks who want to hurt Musk to focus on action that hurts Musk. Causing collateral damage is not fair or helpful - best to avoid it whenever possible.
Lots of people aren’t online as much as you and I are. They might have bought an EV for environmental reasons 10 years ago without even noticing who owned the company.
Seems the working class spends too much time attacking their own instead of actually going after elon musk
Ya man. That’s pretty much it. Destruction of already paid for and profited on privet property is absolutely pointless.
If you wanna hit these guys hard, people like Elon and his billionair ilk. Take they’re money. That’s what they fight for anyway, that’s all they want and it’s their most greatest fear.
Take their money give them a menial job somewhere getting paid $15.45 an hour. See how they like it.
I dont think its the best way to get at their money but if they continue to get vandalized and ppl either sell them (flooding used market) or don’t buy them, the stock price might return to normal amount. I’m not advocating for that but it seems like a solution
Any alternative solutions for affecting a wealthy persons money?
Musk has lost about half of his money because much fewer people want to buy a Tesla now.
Waiting for an explanation of how we take down a billionaire
We already have a demonstration of how to do that a few months ago.
Billionaires have to be fought in their wallets. Use their precious “free market” against them.
So far, Tesla stock is down about 60%, sales are tanking, the company image and brand is badly damaged, recovery seems far away, and frankly bankruptcy seems closer. If Tesla dies, Musk loses billions, AND his most lucrative division.
It will also hurt the wallets of many other Sociopathic Oligarchs, who are also heavily invested in Tesla. Destroy a few other companies like that, and they may start to listen a bit harder.
I think fighting billionaires in their wallets is the exact wrong way because they have so much money it doesn’t even affect their personal life when they lose 90% or more of their wealth.
Musk already is in a position of power which no money of the world can (or maybe should) buy you. So even if he loses all his money he will still have that power and continue to abuse it.
They dont think about money like we do. I remember a situation in a TV show where a successful actor lost half his money to a crooked financial advisor, and he was commiserating with his normal friends.
“I lost $30 million!”
“Wow, thats awful, how much of your money was that?”
“About 50%.”
“So you still have $30 million?”
“Yeah, but I lost $30 million.”
“Yeah, but you still have $30 million!”
“Yeah, but I LOST $30 million!”
Rich people often focus on how much they DON’T have, rather than how much they do have. That’s why they are always grasping for more, despite having no use for it at all. It’s a mental illness like hoarding, except it’s money instead of old newspapers or cats.
When a Sociopathic Oligarch like The MuskRat loses half his fortune, he isn’t thinking “Who cares? I’ve still got more than I’ll ever need.” All they can think about is how much they lost. This Tesla crash will haunt him until the day he dies, even if it recovers, which I increasingly doubt it will. 50/50 it ends in bankruptcy within a couple of years.
That’s why we should double and triple down and make it really hurt. I’ve taken to actually asking Tesla owners what made them turn into a Nazi. I don’t bother to stand around waiting for an answer, I don’t care. I just want them to hear how people are judging them harshly for their choice of vehicle.
They have the drones. They have the acid-filled balloons. Seems like they’ve got the recipe?
They need an address…
I certainly don’t have it. Bet no one here does. If we did, we could send polite letters requesting change.
You know in those movies where the hero has to beat the living hell from a thousand grunts before they are able to get at the boss? And you don’t feel too bad for the grunts, even though they’re not millionaires or the guys doing the big evil stuff, because they chose to align themselves with a villain like the boss?
It’s kind of like that. If people don’t want to own a Tesla because they’ll be targeted for aligning themselves with Musk, Tesla’s stock goes down, which hurts the boss.
I’m not saying I support it (and I’m not saying I don’t), but saying that this is hurting the Working Class and not the real Bad Guy is missing the point.
Just to inform you: most people don’t care about the owner of their car brand. Do you know the owner of most, Toyota shares (without looking it up) ? People see Tesla, which is the most well known electric car brand, the Jones have one too, let’s buy one.
I think you’re missing the point. Personally, when I watch those movies, I think about whether the guard who just got turned into a parapalegic was just an ex-military guy who picked up a security job. For that matter, I wonder about how many people joined the German military in 1932, with no idea what their country would become. They still had to be fought through to affect the leader. Yes, any given grunt, any given infantry, is hurt considerably more than the big fish, but the way of the world is that a lot of little fish must suffer before the big fish feels it.
Not every big fish can be luigi-ed. Some have a security detail.
Then “most people” need to drag their thoughts further afield than their own tiny selfish little world.
Ignorance is not innocence.
Do ylu trace back minerals in your cellphone to the very child that mined them ?
Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.
Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.
Counterpoint: We’ve known how fucked up he is for years. It was just hero worshipping suckers who bought into his bullshit. Anyone with half a brain recognized him for exactly what he always has been.
Cybertrucks are still an acceptable target. He proved who he was by then.
Agree. Plus they are utterly ridiculous.
Nah. Musk was calling that rescue diver saving kids trapped in cave a pedo before the model 3 came out. It was clear, public knowledge that he was a douchebag very early on.
Yeah but I kind of expect every CEO to be on that level of douchebaggery. We wouldn’t be able to buy everything if that’s the bar, because the CEO of every company is on that level.
Also we can’t expect everyone to be aware of that story.
It’s when he bought Twitter and started going on about woke mind virus that he revealed himself as a bigger douche than most CEOs.
Yeah, the twitter debacle fucking broke him I wonder if there’s an alternative timeline where he weaseled out of having to buy it and decided to calm down and shut the fuck up afterwards.
Maybe this is the timeline where he eats enough drugs to explode his own heart on a livestream.
That was the exact moment I realized what a dickhead he is
EVERY big company CEO is a piece of shit. They just keep it behind closed doors. Fuckface decided to do it in the open.
You probably own clothes right now made by kids in Pakistan. How would you feel if someone set them on fire while you were wearing them?
You gonna slap the food out of people’s mouths because they shop at Walmart?
Wanna kick some homeless dude for wearing a donated Tesla T-shirt?
At some point you gotta realize everyone is a victim of capitalism and punishing them for being part of the system they’re born into is the opposite of how you get them to look around and wake up.
If they really want catharsis they’d go after Tesla showrooms. Musk actually owns those, so you’ll actually be hurting his bottom line directly, instead of fucking over someone who bought the only car you could even get during the pandemic.
Really, if you’re pissed at him fuck with him, not some random with a car payment who probably hates him as much as you do.
(I really want to say cybertrucks are fair game, but that’s the goblin talking, and you really shouldn’t listen to the goblin. If your goal is accelerationism, then we have nothing to say to each other)
Not everyone is online as much as we are. Lots of people are utterly unaware that ever happened.
Being unaware doesn’t protect from consequences. Even morally, in a democracy, it’s up to the people to be informed. Buying decisions drive policy. It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed. This alone should start a general strike.
With all the things that are looming, imagine the price you are going to pay because you were not online enough.
What if a person bought a Tesla 10 years ago (before folks knew what an asshole Musk was) to reduce dependence on foreign oil.
Do you think that person deserves to have their car vandalized?
No, but they could have cut their losses by selling when Musk’s character became clear.
That’s true but buying a Tesla is honestly a pretty online move.
The huge loss (in sales volume and therefore 2nd hand price) has mainly occurred because Musk is meddling politically.
Shit dropped from drones is just icing on the cake.
I am 100% in support of boycotting Tesla.
Just if someone bought a Tesla as their personal vehicle 10 years ago because they wanted an environmentally friendly car - before we knew what an asshole Musk was - I don’t think they deserve to have their personal property damaged/destroyed.
Sell the car.
At this point they’d get almost nothing for it - certainly not enough to buy a replacement car.
I’m just saying it helps to carefully target the people you actually are trying to hurt. It doesn’t help a movement if they start hurting bystanders.
Musk is the one hurting Tesla owners with his policies. Yes tesla owners are collateral damage, but the US government cares very little about collateral damage.
Agree: Musk is the one hurting Tesla owners
Agree: US Government doesn’t care about collateral damage
I just would encourage folks who want to hurt Musk to focus on action that hurts Musk. Causing collateral damage is not fair or helpful - best to avoid it whenever possible.
If him being an asshole is new news to you then you weren’t paying attention.
Lots of people aren’t online as much as you and I are. They might have bought an EV for environmental reasons 10 years ago without even noticing who owned the company.