• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    Overpopulation is not the cause of global collapse. That way of thinking always leads to the poor people getting blamed for even existing. We can sustain more people. What we can’t sustain is our wasteful Western materialistic way of life. Let’s start by eliminating industrial scale cattle farming.

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      30 days ago

      Self-cherishing attitude is the cause of all our problems not just global collapse.

      Industrial scale cattle farming is a must to support the current demand and it exists because we can’t care enough to renounce the pleasure of eating meat. It is always me, me and me. And the problem is always because the other, the other and the other.

      Of course we can sustain a lot of more of people, but not with our mindset.

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        30 days ago

        Right, so then don’t reduce population, but consumption. Blaming people will lead to the worst outcomes. Who are the ones who should stop existing? Can’t you see how that way of thinking is promoting fascism, genocide?

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          29 days ago

          You can’t stop existing if you never existed. It’s not promoting genocide. It’s promoting not reproducing when there’s already plenty.

          In a roundabout way, that’s a part of lower consumption. Everyone is a consumer. And more babies = more consumers = more consumption. It’s a conscious choice people make that increases consumption.

          Don’t kill the cows that already exist. Stop killing them, and stop breeding them. Sustain the ones who are already here, and stop making more than we can easily sustain.