I’m increasingly wondering why people in the US aren’t taking to the streets in their thousands.
I’d also like to share a poem by Martin Niemöller, who was a pastor in Germany during the Nazi regime and even supported the Nazis at the beginning:
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me (Martin Niemöller)
Demonstrations have become so predictable that people ignore them now. Politicians know that if you wait a few days they will be forgotten. What you really need to do is shut down the nation like the French rail unions do.
define large, because every major city is already hitting frequent protests in the thousands
Because they largely don’t care maybe
There are. It’s just the US is a large car-centric country which makes travel difficult and the ruling party controls almost all of the media and thus there is a media blackout on protests.
This right here is the main reason why Trump might succeed… The media has been beaten into submission and refuses to report the actual events that are occurring which make Trump look bad.
The media hasn’t been beaten into submission, it’s owned by MAGA billionaires. There are plenty of independent media news sources reporting facts, but they don’t have the same reach.
Was there anything on the scale of the 2017 women’s march? I’m sure your arguments are true to some extent, but I am surprised and concerned that I haven’t seen anything in similar scale to 2017’s protests, despite the situation being so much worse this time. Back then they managed to mobilize over 200,000 people despite being car-centric.
Yeah, and in 2020 we elected a democrat and gave democrats a majority. Instead of codifying Roe, they protected the filibuster.
We saw how much good the women’s march didn’t do because one party wants women dead from sepsis, and the other doesn’t give a shit.
Why protest when NOT EVEN THE GOOD PARTY LISTENS?
Yeah the democrats have been a disappointment. I’d kinda see that as a reason to protest all the harder though. Using more disruptive measures like general strikes as well. Make them listen. Protest movements have overthrown tyrannical regimes before. Gets harder the more they’ve consolidated their power though.
Really impossible to say because, to reiterate the point the post you’re replying to made, the media is not covering protests like it was in 2017. There have been multiple protests in all 50 states, some very large, but the word just isn’t getting out about them.
Foreign media would report on it though, wouldn’t it? There are many European reporters in the US. And there should be plenty of videos, pictures etc showing the scale. I haven’t seen anything comparable to pictures of the women’s march personally. I’ve seen pictures of protests but they seem, comparatively, quite small.
Any place to find good protests near me? I wanna join one for fun
Trump has broad aupport.
Bernie the sheepdog and his training puppy AOC are doing their part, fiercely rallying to keep the sheep away from actual alternatives to the Uniparty.
“Why are there no” should be “why aren’t news outlets covering the”
Search for the hashtag #50501 on any social media platform. Check c/50501.
The protests are happening. News media just wants to suck Trump’s dick so they can “survive” the fascist takeover so they’re not covering them. Same reason Reddit is censoring criticism of Musk (source)
50501 didn’t turn out to be a prank? My state’s “organizer” was a deleted reddit post with no other contact info, the posters named three different start times, and only two people claimed to have links to the signal chat and stopped replying when I asked for it, even though they offered.
I visited the subreddit three days before it was supposed to take place, and they were still figuring out basics. One of the top posts was discussing the dress code (consensus seemed to be wearing blue + American flag scarfs), and the one person pointing out how impractical and dangerous that was for a protest was getting downvoted.
Thats the reason I’m not protesting, btw. One protest in my area and it seemed like either a joke, a honeypot, or like a teenager came up with it.
Not sure what your area is, but 50501 has become an ID for basically all the protests I’ve heard about. They’re ongoing. There’s another big one on Saturday (April 5th).
Consider it a joke if you want, but people are showing up and protesting because they don’t know what else to do.
If people are actually protesting, of course I don’t consider it a joke. I just thought the one in February 5th was a joke, everyone was guilt tripping me for asking questions but refused to answer them.
Three different start times, two different addresses, and everyone pretending there’s a signal chat just feels like a trick.
Thank you for the clarification. I’m very glad that they’re protest’s, but it’s a shame that the news media doesn’t report about that.
You misspelled “oligarch propaganda outlets”
If 2020 taught us anything at all, it was that despite whatever horrors, challenges, and/or desperate situations, we are still expected to show up for work on time. Don’t want to lose insurance, and most people are like a paycheck or two away from being unhoused, or at least seriously close that it would be near impossible to catch back up. They’ve made it impossible to do anything except show up for work on time.
We know. But the point is no one is coming to save you, and things aren’t going to get better on their own.
Because the US doesn’t have any opposition parties or any local leadership that can organize anything. Protests in other places are usually organized by unions, for example. In America everyone just sits at their own couch thinking “someone should be doing something by now” and it never crosses their minds that they should be that someone.
What specific action should people be taking that will have an observable result?
Because why would you protest against the president you wanted in.
There have been tons of protests and there have been some pretty widespread ones outside of Tesla this weekend. The media is just hardly covering it making them seem way smaller than they are
Here’s a map of recent Tesla Takedown protests alone
https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown
Here’s just a handful of photos from yesterday
Most people within the US aren’t aware these protests are happening either. There are also broader nationwide protests planned on April 5th as part of the 50501 movement. This will be the 4th nationwide 50501 protest
Thanks for saying the name of the org. Much easier to join up that way.
Elon is taking the blame
A lack of organization. There’s no one central voice organizing large scale protests, so you get hundreds or thousands of smaller protests that don’t attract media attention.