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  • My theory was that they had kept him tucked away somewhere in Vorlon space all that time - I forget if they said he worked over others, but if so then he could have been kept either in stasis or merely with no work to be done in-between, which might be heaven for some but for his personality type seemed like hell.

    But either way, like you said about Lyta, he was an absolute tool - their absolute tool.


  • Yeah and he could also have been a clone, so both rather than either-or:-). I don’t think they’d hesitate to lie to him, or conversely to tell the truth about his abduction, so if he has memories that they allowed him to keep I presume they would be real - the Vorlons just couldn’t care less otherwise so why not? (Occam’s Razor)

    You bring up a very interesting point about Kosh: yes the Vorlons were assholes, but he (it? they?) was not - and oddly enough, it wasn’t that he “wasn’t a (real) Vorlon”, but rather like he was a true one and all the others were the fakes?

    I don’t quite have the words but like, he was what he was because he knew about the ancient task that they had set out for themselves hundreds of thousands or even millions of years hence, and decided to actually do it rather than as the others all seemed to, do the exact opposite of “guide” the younger races (to self-discovery).

    John Sheridan was ofc the same type, as too was G’Kar: both men ready for war, while in the service of peace (a different purpose than the Vorlons… or is it?).

    We see this all over now: people showing up on January 6 at the USA capital to “defend” democracy by… overthrowing it? And religion that somehow becomes warped into diddling kids, yet side by side with others in the “exact same” religion who take care of widows and orphans and do so much good in the world. The cheaters are never going to be honest about who they are, preferring instead to hide out within the existing substance living as parasites rather than do the work of making their own structures, borrowing its reputation and forms of earned authority - e.g. President Clark did not declare himself an emperor but retained the title of a democratic “President”, despite the literal coup that gave him that position.

    Kosh, John, and G’Kar were those who refused to blindly follow their culture to “just do the thing”, and instead questioned everything according to the logical principles of self-consistency: “is what I’m doing right according to the goal that I want to eventually reach?”, and by doing such they not only served their peoples (hehe, but not necessarily the ones in charge at the time) but also lead them, as in they went out ahead and did that next right thing, thus setting an example for others to follow, if they wanted.

    So I said that I lacked the words but a stab at it could be: Kosh was who he was not despite being a Vorlon, but rather because of it. However, if true, that has massive implications for the nature of Truth, i.e. it must not be defined by a majority-rules consensus (even for something like a race of people or a democracy) and rather some other standard that if not purely external then at least is not entirely internally defined, in the sense that it is a combination of whatever was internal but also subject to the (external?) constraints imposed by the need to remain logically consistent.

    As in, there was a “correct” way to be, and Kosh chose it in defiance of his people, which we as consumers of the media recognize and respect.

    That show is so deep. Or perhaps it is better to say that I feel deeper as a result of thinking about the material presented in the show.:-)










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    “I speak alternative facts, making others do the work of figuring out what I meant.”

    vs.

    “I have researched in-depth and know what I am talking about and why.”

    Tbf there are probably far-right people who are more like the latter. Just b/c I do not recall ever hearing those arguments does not mean that they don’t exist!






  • 1979 was Jimmy Carter, a Democrat. Reagan did not start until 1980, and while he is famous for breaking the backs of unions, thus crippling their ability to fight back against this trend, he did not actually start it.

    Before Carter was Ford and Nixon, both Republicans. Ford pardoned Nixon’s crimes, supposedly to help “heal the nation”.

    According to Robert Reich’s “Inequality for All” (free link) - he was the Secretary of Labor under Clinton and previously served under both the Carter and Ford administration so he was very much attuned to what was going on - this trend started due to the rise of corporations, which have super-rights that humans do not have. e.g., taxes on stock dividends were capped at like 13% while payroll taxes can go up to >35%, and while if a human commits a crime they would go to jail, but not so with a corporation. It’s a great racket scheme for the rich to cover themselves in a legal fiction so as to avoid pretty much any responsibility for their actions. Hence why we see so many corporations acting so very boldly to destroy the planet - after all, why not? What’s the worst that could happen to them in return?