Oh I get that, I’m just still rolling my eyes at the ridiculously cynical play she made using his assassination to get back into the GOP’s good graces.

After Haley already gave a full throated endorsement of Trump 🙄

It was just a joke should’ve done /s I suppose

Whenever I think about that it really makes the war feel real. These are just artists trying to make something for people to enjoy, and they were ripped from their work to go die against a vicious, invading neighbor. It’s awful

Really, Again?

I’m sorry but their country was invaded by Russia. They can take as long as they damn well please.

To me it’s just them saying they want the game to be a massive success critically because it would be awesome to see that for a team that has been through so much.

You can’t make lemonade from lemons for all parties involved? Why does a misstated price have to spike the whole endeavor?

Of course head it off as early as possible. I never said otherwise. The guy is fishing for “you’re a bad person.”

How could we when they won’t stop their incessant shrieking about literally anything they find remotely inconvenient or vaguely threatening due the simple fact that liberals/progressive advocate for it?

Oh my god dude move on. I’m not clarifying again and I’m not reading this mess. Everyone else clearly gets this. Just think I’m an asshole and move on or recognize you’re being a Skinner. I’m not doing this anymore.

What did I do that was “pushy” or “deceptive”? I am saying “well they’re on the phone/in person/whatever now so may as well explain the mistake, tell them your rate, and offer to do it anyway.” How on earth you object this is baffling to me. The point is it’s still an opportunity for both parties, not an opportunity to lie to get what you want. I can’t possibly be more clear now.

You’re just wrong dude. It’s not a crime to misinterpret someone but stop telling me what I am and mean when I am sitting here telling you exactly what I meant. I’ve clarified this plenty of times for you. Catch up or move on. You’re saying “when someone tells you” yada yada, well everyone else here gets it except you so maybe realize you’re pulling a principle skinner and made a mistake that’s turning into an ego issue. You’ve convinced yourself I’m some sort of sleazy car salesman or some other form of asshole and won’t let go of it.

My dude “get them in the door” is an expression. I am not saying you lie to them on the phone to get them to show up in person.

Also I have repeatedly said not to deceive them. At some point you need to stop telling me what I said and listen to what I’m actually saying.

When did I ever say if they call you not to correct it immediately? Show me.

The entire point is that the first time they talk to you you have no idea that they are expecting a ridiculous rate. So you clarify the situation and if you’re lucky it turns into a job anyway. Explain to me how that is deceptive.

That’s ridiculous. OP gets a call from someone expecting a rate they never set and it’s the same as caking your pants? I don’t even remotely follow the logic.

I’m saying you can take a misunderstanding and make it a positive thing. The person needs a site - you tell them your real rate and they’re free to say no. But freelancer did absolutely nothing to create this situation. They’ve done nothing wrong.

As a cinematographer I’ve been in this situation plenty of times. I did a budget friendly job for somebody, they don’t realize the other person has much larger demands and doesn’t have a relationship with me, they give the person an unrealistic range, I clarify the situation and explain that is not my rate, and sometimes they go “well whatever that’s a fair rate/I still need you so let’s do business.” I did absolutely nothing deceptive. I was transparent every step of the way and there is nothing wrong with that.

“Can you come out for $300?”

“No that’s not what this jobs costs. I can do $1200. Yes or no?”

Done

OP didn’t do anything. You tell them you don’t work for $500. What are they supposed to do? Ignore the call? I’m just saying it could become a good thing. Nothing deceptive happened here.

As a freelancer, this can actually be used to your advantage lol. It gets them in the door and you can make it a funny thing that he thought that was your rate. If they’re not serious people, they’ll walk out the door. But if they are, they’ve already invested the time to contact you, so they’re a little easier to land as clients.