For me, it’s just a really simple piece of context in the original post. Intuit, lobbied against the legislation for years and failed. The opposing lobby won, and we got free taxes. So why are you talking about lobby’s when clearly in the context of this post, they succeeded in bringing us good legislation. Which was reversed by a dictator taking a bribe. I do appreciate your interest in engagement in US politics. I just really need to point this fact out because it is annoying.

I didn’t even catch the last sentence. OK you’re not from the US and that makes sense. You have a better understanding of US politics the most US citizens. I for one I’m ashamed of that, but you do not have a full grasp of US politics or the history behind them or the processes we use and why we use them. Mixing up words and demonizing normal shit is how we got here

The post we’re commenting other states two things. They lobbied against it for years(and failed).

They donated $1 million to the inauguration dinner and more than likely the campaign to elect Trump…. And that beat out their lobbying investment: lobbying a part of democracy. Unlimited political contributions to pay to manipulate lobbying is undemocratic.

My point is you guys missed the whole point of the meme that we’re discussing under? Paid lobbying is a real job. Funneling money to lawmakers is not, there is nothing wrong with a paid lobbyist because they exist outside of corporate interests.

Vacation to El Salvador. Permanent.

This is so funny too because I grew up in a time where the police would tell you to not lock your car door if someone was breaking your windows out regularly. No one ever got prosecuted for that shit.

I commented on the wrong post my bad this was to op 😭

Based and punitive pilled

It’s all Clarence knows. He couldn’t practice law if he wanted to.

Campaign contributions do not equal lobbying. You are talking about unlimited campaign contributions. And calling it lobbying: I am pointing this out because your lack of civic education has brought a goddamn dictatorship upon this country

Theres a website for 50501 and the Hands off Movement, you basically have to check their websites regularly. Check for local movements too. Facebook has groups for locals.

Not enough advertising ahead of time. i saw a farmers protest in my local town. The day after it happened. On some obscure unrelated subreddit. So like theres coverage, just not ahead of time.

Congress too, we need them to step down. The rich are afraid of taxes, congress needs to be more afraid of us than they are of taxing the rich. they still need to get food. They still have family that live in our communities. They should feel as safe as an illegal immigrant smuggling thought crimes across the border.

When we were legalizing cannabis in Maine the local growers had to form a lobby to fight against the out of state corporate growers who also had a powerful lobby. Banning lobbying doesn’t help it just takes away peoples voices. Lobbying is just a group of people pooling resources to enact common legislation or political goals. It’s an important part of the political process people neglect. and it’s been diluted by money. Don’t need to dilute it further with misinformation.

I mean someone has to pay the lobbiests. The National Organization for women pays lawyers to write laws for them to present to congress, through lobbiests who are also paid. You want feminist groups who are allowed to write feminist laws and present them to congress right? You want someone to advocate for laws you want right? That’s lobbying?

Citizens united is what you guys are thinking of. The one where corporations can donate infinite money to politicians? So when a corporate lobby brings anti-feminist legislation, they then contribute lots of money to the politician they are lobbying. And magically the politican ignores their voters and sides with the anti-feminist pro corporate law. That’s citizens united. It’s not a problem with lobbying. You have a problem with corporate lobbys not womans rights lobbys right? You have a problem with your representatives favoring corporate lobbys because they get infinite money throught… DRUM ROLL… Citizens united.

I really hope this helps.

Yea i don’t really mind the SCOTUS issue. That goes away with the two party issue, politicized judges with zero integrity is a failure of congress. I like that judges hold benches and get lifetimes of experience and wisdom. I like the old age and prudence rule in courts. Congress ya, 70 is probably getting to old. There’s no reason to throw them out of the party, but they do not need to be holding seats when we need to be constantly generating new politicians. They all became so obsessed with their own power they forget they will eventually die with no one to carry their torch. There needs to be a better transition of leadership, as well as coherent leadership. People of all ages should be represented in congress similar to how we are in public. If the boomers are 30% of the population they shouldn’t be holding more than 30% of the seats. Fair equitable representation.

Bro we can’t even cross the aisle to independents who voted for Clinton in 2016. Im not talking about the fascists.

AOC isn’t that leftist anymore. Years of washington have certainly made her more bearable to moderates. I came around to her a long time ago, she’s an excellent speaker and very intune with the issues.

There is nothing wrong with lobbying…. There are lobbies for woman’s rights, black rights, all sorts of good causes have lobbies.

The politicians just bend over for corporate lobbies. Very important distinction. I think what would fit your argument better is will never happen as long as citizens United exists.

OI wanker. Ya I think that’s fair, American culture peaked 20 years ago and we no longer need to export it. Clearly the winner of the culture war was the culture war itself. I wouldn’t wish our fate on any nation.

Most people are for gun control, branding yourself as anti 2A doesn’t really inspire hope that he can cross the aisle. It doesn’t have to be a toxic issue but it’s delicate. After checking the wiki he seems like he’s got some qualification. Left some room to be desired but I’ll judge the man by his work.

They just need a candidate that can get 100m votes. Like it should not be hard in the age of stolen data to pick a person who can get 100m people off the couch. I don’t care what the Democrats like at this point. If we can’t figure out a candidate and policy that will invigorate 100,000,000 people we don’t even deserve to be running.

can you get 1/3 of the country to vote against fascism? challenge: impossible